Behold, our ancestors.

[Vene]

Actually, while that is cool, I am still not completly satisfied. I can't find a link to a peer reviewed journal, and the articles only hint at the possibility of there being a melanin radiosynthetic pathway.

Do you know of one?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0000457
You ask and you shall receive.

[Jasper]

Bad ass, Vene.  Good website.

[Reginald Ret]

cool! i have to keep an eye on where this is going.

[Kai]

Actually, while that is cool, I am still not completly satisfied. I can't find a link to a peer reviewed journal, and the articles only hint at the possibility of there being a melanin radiosynthetic pathway.

Do you know of one?

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0000457
You ask and you shall receive.

THAT is what I was looking for! 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

[Kai]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

On the other hand, I have a hard time sticking models in my head that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris, while ideas like evolutionary biology and abiogenesis get stuck in my head hard.

The only difference between the two is that one has more evidence. Its STILL some ideas stuck in your head driving your thoughts.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

On the other hand, I have a hard time sticking models in my head that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris, while ideas like evolutionary biology and abiogenesis get stuck in my head hard.

The only difference between the two is that one has more evidence. Its STILL some ideas stuck in your head driving your thoughts.

Well sure, but my goal is model agnosticism... ANY MODEL, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE. I was inoculated against magic (from the devil!!) and drugs (the demons can possess you if you are on drugs!!) but abiogenesis, the life from unlife model just eludes me still. I know that we're talking about replicating proteins at that point, not frogs and rats and Cramuli, but still... 

[Kai]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

On the other hand, I have a hard time sticking models in my head that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris, while ideas like evolutionary biology and abiogenesis get stuck in my head hard.

The only difference between the two is that one has more evidence. Its STILL some ideas stuck in your head driving your thoughts.

Well sure, but my goal is model agnosticism... ANY MODEL, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE. I was inoculated against magic (from the devil!!) and drugs (the demons can possess you if you are on drugs!!) but abiogenesis, the life from unlife model just eludes me still. I know that we're talking about replicating proteins at that point, not frogs and rats and Cramuli, but still... 

Its alright. No one really knows the how. All we will ever have is some guesses to the how and the where, and we have some models for the what.

No one will ever know the why, if there is one, but lots of people will think they do.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

On the other hand, I have a hard time sticking models in my head that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris, while ideas like evolutionary biology and abiogenesis get stuck in my head hard.

The only difference between the two is that one has more evidence. Its STILL some ideas stuck in your head driving your thoughts.

Well sure, but my goal is model agnosticism... ANY MODEL, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE. I was inoculated against magic (from the devil!!) and drugs (the demons can possess you if you are on drugs!!) but abiogenesis, the life from unlife model just eludes me still. I know that we're talking about replicating proteins at that point, not frogs and rats and Cramuli, but still... 

Its alright. No one really knows the how. All we will ever have is some guesses to the how and the where, and we have some models for the what.

No one will ever know the why, if there is one, but lots of people will think they do.

And that is why I like Kai. No dogmatic sciencism!

[Kai]

Reading articles like this really torque my nice iron bars

I'm constantly surprised that while I can easily stick my head in models that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris... I seem to have been so inoculated against the idea of abiogenesis that I tend to dismiss evidence out of hand as an initial reaction.

Fucking Prison.

On the other hand, I have a hard time sticking models in my head that include egrigores, invocations, aliens and Eris, while ideas like evolutionary biology and abiogenesis get stuck in my head hard.

The only difference between the two is that one has more evidence. Its STILL some ideas stuck in your head driving your thoughts.

Well sure, but my goal is model agnosticism... ANY MODEL, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE. I was inoculated against magic (from the devil!!) and drugs (the demons can possess you if you are on drugs!!) but abiogenesis, the life from unlife model just eludes me still. I know that we're talking about replicating proteins at that point, not frogs and rats and Cramuli, but still... 

Its alright. No one really knows the how. All we will ever have is some guesses to the how and the where, and we have some models for the what.

No one will ever know the why, if there is one, but lots of people will think they do.

And that is why I like Kai. No dogmatic sciencism!

I despise the Brights as much as I do the Creationists.

[Thurnez Isa]

This thread on candidatus desulforudis needs more reptilian agents

[Kai]

This thread on Candidatus Desulforudis audaxviator needs more reptilian agents

Fixsthhhhhhhhhhed.

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[Thurnez Isa]

fucking shapeshifting reptilian aliens
spreading their candidatus desulforudis semen all over the universe

[Kai]

fucking shapeshifting reptilian aliens
spreading their candidatus desulforudis semen all over the universe

eh....I think my point was, while using a picture of a reptilioid, that candidatus isn't part of the species name, its simply a word that indicates a prokaryotic species as not yet being completly described. Its like a pre-recognition, a candidate for a species, in this case candidate species Desulforudis audaxviator. Genus names are always capitalized, and there are never two genus names.

This piece of random biological trivia brought to you by Sludge.

[Requia ☣]

That bacteria is possibly the most awesome thing on the planet.  Not so much the feeding off radiation (I've seen that in the fungii species that were determined to do it in the wake of the chenobyl discovery), but in the sheer robustness of the organism, does it need any organic chemicals in its enviornment at all to survive?

However, why oh WHY do people have to go on and on and on about seeding from outer space?

I was thinking more along the lines of using it to seed other planets than it having been seeded on ours.