What do you REALLY believe?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The one thing that Cosmic Trigger taught me is this:
Sirius people are sirius business.

*Rat Dies*

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, RAW also lumped in pancakes from visitors from sirius with chapel perilous. He wasn't very clear about his distinctions.

Well, for RAW I think Chapel Perilous is mostly directly identified with any event that broke your concept of reality. Be it an initiation, a near-death experience, aliens or anything of the sort.

[hooplala]

I need to read Cosmic Trigger again. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I need to read Cosmic Trigger again. 

I just finished it for the third time... still picked up new stuff LOL

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

I've started making notes in my dead tree copy. It's great.

[hooplala]

I wish the other two were as good. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I wish the other two were as good. 

Amen to that...

[Bu🤠ns]

Well, RAW also lumped in pancakes from visitors from sirius with chapel perilous. He wasn't very clear about his distinctions.

Well, for RAW I think Chapel Perilous is mostly directly identified with any event that broke your concept of reality. Be it an initiation, a near-death experience, aliens or anything of the sort.

That also seems to be where Antero Alli runs with it.  The idea of a Karma Mechanic making constant 'adjustments' to deal with the influx of new information, experiences etc...

Considering how RAW didn't really have a firm held belief in anything (maybe logic) it seems that having a point of view that can process odd bits of reality bending info into a useful existence would be quite helpful.

[Jasper]

Chapel Perilous seemed to be even more abstract than that (to me).  It seems like all those items you needed to pass through it were the real focus.  The wand of being smart or whatever, that stuff.  My concept of chapel perilous is that it's constantly happening around us, and though events in our lives may put it into stark relief and shock us, it's always there. 

When you're driving your car and listening to the radio, it's there.  Are you aware of the drunk bastard with road rage?  Do you have what it takes to avoid him?  The Chapel is potentially everywhere and you only need to approach it wrong once to lose everything.

[Bu🤠ns]

i think that's a valid perspective. Reminds me of that Castaneda bit about living as if death were constantly with you. 

[Jasper]

His stuff would have been so much more interesting if it was marketed as fiction.

ETA:  That said:

"Living life as if death was constantly with you"  is similar, but implies a certain amount of fatalistic detachment that I have no interest in.

[Bu🤠ns]

His stuff would have been so much more interesting if it was marketed as fiction.

ETA:  That said:

"Living life as if death was constantly with you"  is similar, but implies a certain amount of fatalistic detachment that I have no interest in.

I can appreciate that point of view.  Chapel Perilous seems more open ended.  I'd even go so far as to associate it with Kali. In a lot of ways it's like embracing those awfully awefuls--those creepie weepies that sit in the dark gloomy recesses of the storehouse consciousness.

[Jasper]

Thanks for thinking we're cool, I guess.

I think that room-full-of-believers feeling is a matter of cognitive dissonance.  People automatically ascribe a certain amount of veracity to widely held beliefs, even if they rationally understand the flaws of those beliefs.  Being surrounded by people who think very different thoughts can cause this.

Also I notice that a lot of people are big on "Not caring" about what other people think these days.  That is a very unusual social norm, even for modern day society.  Not really belief-related, except that it tends to affect the way belief circulates.

[Requia ☣]

I decided that caring what other people believe would put me on the fast track to becoming a fundie.  Atheist or otherwise.

Seriously, I've been hanging at at freeratio lately, the atheists seem just as fucking crazy as the christians when they debate religion. 

"God isn't real cause a person can't survive in the belly of a whale!"
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[Urraco]

I decided that caring what other people believe would put me on the fast track to becoming a fundie.  Atheist or otherwise.

Seriously, I've been hanging at at freeratio lately, the atheists seem just as fucking crazy as the christians when they debate religion. 

"God isn't real cause a person can't survive in the belly of a whale!"
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Tru dat.