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Do you believe in a soul?

Started by The Dark Monk, November 07, 2008, 01:51:39 AM

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I am kind of partial to the Chaos Magic model that Peter uses in Liber Null and Liber Kaos.

It basically says that there is the Kia, we can't really describe the Kia usefully... its just a symbol marker. At best we can call the Kia singular... there is no duality... just the Kia. Without duality, there is no experience. So the Kia spins off bits of itself to become a duality and thus be able to experience.

Within each of us is Kia... sort of like a little 'chunk' of the big Kia that got spun off... of course, none of these words should be considered scientifically sound or physically descriptive. So inside of us is a Kia-bit, when we die, the Kia-bit is sucked back into the Kia along with the accumulation of our experiences. The Kia-bits thus may get spun off again and again, though not necessarily the same bits... like batter, once you stik the bits back together, you don't take them precisely back apart... esp if you mix it up a bit.

I don't believe any of this for a minute... but its an interesting model.
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Quote from: A Cad Quirked Florists Rotors on November 10, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
I am kind of partial to the Chaos Magic model that Peter uses in Liber Null and Liber Kaos.

It basically says that there is the Kia, we can't really describe the Kia usefully... its just a symbol marker. At best we can call the Kia singular... there is no duality... just the Kia. Without duality, there is no experience. So the Kia spins off bits of itself to become a duality and thus be able to experience.

Within each of us is Kia... sort of like a little 'chunk' of the big Kia that got spun off... of course, none of these words should be considered scientifically sound or physically descriptive. So inside of us is a Kia-bit, when we die, the Kia-bit is sucked back into the Kia along with the accumulation of our experiences. The Kia-bits thus may get spun off again and again, though not necessarily the same bits... like batter, once you stik the bits back together, you don't take them precisely back apart... esp if you mix it up a bit.

I don't believe any of this for a minute... but its an interesting model.

How about this:
They're this stuff called matter, and a little bit of it is inside all of us.  When we die the matter-bit goes back and joins all the other matter-bits.  Matter doesn't really mean anything, but then we wouldn't have much to experience, so sombunal of us create a matter / spirit duality and start assigning meaning to all sorts of shit.

That better?
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"Do you believe in a soul?"

Yeah.  One.

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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 11, 2008, 03:39:07 AM
"Do you believe in a soul?"

Yeah.  One.



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what's all this bollocks about losing 21 grams when you die?  :tinfoilhat: - That MUST be a soul!

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Quote from: bones on November 11, 2008, 09:05:27 PMwhat's all this bollocks about losing 21 grams when you die?  :tinfoilhat: - That MUST be a soul!
Snopes time, too bad that the methodology of the experiment sucked.

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yeah, that was my assumption.

would be vaguely interested if they did a proper test, but I guess there's no reason to since it seems to be obvious bullshit.

make a couple trying to conceive fuck on scales and see if they gain the grams at conception would be more humane than putting a dying dude on them, but even still no real scientist would bother because it's so daft


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Quote from: bones on November 11, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
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Quote from: Iptuous on November 12, 2008, 12:28:33 AM
Quote from: bones on November 11, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
CALL THE MYTHBUSTERS!
I snopsed the Mysthbusters, and it turns out they're false.

Mythbusters apparently half-asses a lot of shit. I don't trust them anymore.
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Quote from: Nigel on November 12, 2008, 02:01:44 AM
Quote from: Iptuous on November 12, 2008, 12:28:33 AM
Quote from: bones on November 11, 2008, 11:18:16 PM
CALL THE MYTHBUSTERS!
I snopsed the Mysthbusters, and it turns out they're false.

Mythbusters apparently half-asses a lot of shit. I don't trust them anymore.

APPARENTLY??   :lulz:

I don't think I've ever seen them 'prove' or 'disprove' anything satisfactorily.
Not that I've watched a great deal - mainly for that exact reason.

Although:
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