Do you believe in a soul?

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

[Revenant]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.  It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

[Kai]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.  It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

There is a such thing as Occam's Razor.

[Nast]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

[Revenant]

No.

That violates the First Law of Thermodynamics. The energy which "disapears" at death is lost in the form of heat, or is stored as chemical energy Until that is converted into heat by the processes of another organism or process.

Also, zombies? O.o

First, I put no faith an any scientific laws as we monkeys tend to say it HAS to be this way and can't possibly be anything else.  Our arrogance is amazing.

Gravity.

Now stop being silly.

I am being serious.  I don't know how many times in the various classes I have taken that I was told one thing and two years later it is being contradicted.  I don't believe in absolutes outside of change.  It is part of my upbringing to question everything.

PLEASE TO SHOW EVIDENCE OF VIOLATION OF BASIC PHYSICAL LAWS.

Please calm down, you are starting make me think that I am insulting your religion.  Science is just science. It is imperfect as it stems for the imperfect.  We can never say there are absolutes.  We can only say it should be like this or it will work like this the majority of the time.  It was the first lesson I was taught in my Physical Science class back in high school.  There is too much as a species that we do not know.  I was taught to avoid absolutes outside of change. Which like a good student, I questioned and probed until I was satisfied it made sense.

Strangely enough this attitude has let me see things differently than some.  I realize it can drift into the unusual at times, but once again consider anything a possibility.

Once again, it could all be a lie.

[shadowfurry23]

The body requires energy to function.  When a body dies that energy is gone.  As that energy has mass, it can be concluded that when a body dies its mass decreases due to the energy becoming non-existent.  Where that energy goes? Who knows, but we know it must go somewhere as if it didn't the body would just keep moving about on its own.

*facepalm*

Dude, the body is a machine whose engine is the heart.  When it stops, the machine stops.  Where does the energy that drives your car go when it runs out of gas?

Look, the existence of the soul can be neither proved nor disproved, pretty much by definition.  The reason religions talk about the soul is that they say they have the secrets of how to determine what happens to it after you die.  It is of course impossible to tell if they are right or not as well.

So I'm agnostic on the subject, myself.  I go about my life and try to be a good person.  If there's an afterlife that is determined based on some code of behaviour, I hope mine is reasonably in line with it.   Anyone who claims to have the rulebook really has no more knowledge than you do on the subject, and if they tell you otherwise they are full of shit.

I don't know if I have a soul, and I don't care.  If I do, I hope that I'll be pleasantly surprised.   If I don't, I won't have anything to worry about it because I'll be fucking dead.

[Revenant]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.  It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

There is a such thing as Occam's Razor.

You are absolutely right, lets us it here.

Which is more likely, man knows everything and can state absolutes or man is just a spec in the universe and creates laws to make himself feel better?

[Revenant]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

Does it have to be useful?

[Revenant]

The body requires energy to function.  When a body dies that energy is gone.  As that energy has mass, it can be concluded that when a body dies its mass decreases due to the energy becoming non-existent.  Where that energy goes? Who knows, but we know it must go somewhere as if it didn't the body would just keep moving about on its own.

*facepalm*

Dude, the body is a machine whose engine is the heart.  When it stops, the machine stops.  Where does the energy that drives your car go when it runs out of gas?

Right, it does stop when out of gas, but on the zombie thing, thinking more like running on the fumes.

[Nast]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

Does it have to be useful?

Only if you're sick of ineffectual mental-masturbation.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

Does it have to be useful?

Only if you're sick of ineffectual mental-masturbation.

That's a fine motorcycle you're riding.

[Revenant]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

Does it have to be useful?

Only if you're sick of ineffectual mental-masturbation.

That's all it will ever truly be, mental masturbation.  It is why it is called a belief and not knowledge.  We will never truly know until it is experienced.  Until then.....

[Kai]

No.

That violates the First Law of Thermodynamics. The energy which "disapears" at death is lost in the form of heat, or is stored as chemical energy Until that is converted into heat by the processes of another organism or process.

Also, zombies? O.o

First, I put no faith an any scientific laws as we monkeys tend to say it HAS to be this way and can't possibly be anything else.  Our arrogance is amazing.

Gravity.

Now stop being silly.

I am being serious.  I don't know how many times in the various classes I have taken that I was told one thing and two years later it is being contradicted.  I don't believe in absolutes outside of change.  It is part of my upbringing to question everything.

PLEASE TO SHOW EVIDENCE OF VIOLATION OF BASIC PHYSICAL LAWS.

Please calm down, you are starting make me think that I am insulting your religion.  Science is just science. It is imperfect as it stems for the imperfect.  We can never say there are absolutes.  We can only say it should be like this or it will work like this the majority of the time.  It was the first lesson I was taught in my Physical Science class back in high school.  There is too much as a species that we do not know.  I was taught to avoid absolutes outside of change. Which like a good student, I questioned and probed until I was satisfied it made sense.

Strangely enough this attitude has let me see things differently than some.  I realize it can drift into the unusual at times, but once again consider anything a possibility.

Once again, it could all be a lie.

I'm not angry or upset. Caps lock is cruise control for cool. I just did it to get your attention. You still haven't given any examples of sound experiments which violate basic physical laws.

[Kai]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.  It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

There is a such thing as Occam's Razor.

You are absolutely right, lets us it here.

Which is more likely, man knows everything and can state absolutes or man is just a spec in the universe and creates laws to make himself feel better?

Which is more likely, the existence of a soul which we cannot measure, or the existence of physical laws which we can consistently measure?

[Kai]

Well then, do you question the validity of your argument?

Yup, I certainly do.  Which is why it ends with "Or I could be lying."  Like everyone else, I do not nor could I ever truly know.  This is speculation.  The question was asked, I gave you my answer.  Not my fault, YOU don't like it.

It certainly isn't your fault. But I'm also free to criticize.

It doesn't mean it is not possible.  It does not make it true or false.  It just is.

That's very zen and all, but is it really applicable to anything useful?

Does it have to be useful?

Only if you're sick of ineffectual mental-masturbation.

That's all it will ever truly be, mental masturbation.  It is why it is called a belief and not knowledge.  We will never truly know until it is experienced.  Until then.....

There are things we can consistently measure. We can build upon those measurements with more measurements.

What you are saying is that the measurements are shit and we should just reside in ignorance of reality.


You're a fucking idiot.