Black Iron Prison v3 thread

[Jenne]

Lollercaust can happen...I've seen a lot of build-up over the years.  We just need another Manta-type dumpster diving expedition to uncover all the loll'ing that's been going on.

I think unfortunately there's alot of lollercaust that can't be forced...has to spontaneously happen.

[Template]

Okay, take that and make the tags user definable. I'm thinking searching tags for "the machine" or "GSP" and being given a list of all the article-class posts which have those tags attributed to them. Articles would, of course, have numerous tags, collated from numerous members who all feel that something deserves a specific tag, perhaps with a weighting on the tag, which increases as more people attribute it to the piece. That way the results could be "tagranked" depending how many times a tag has been applied to one post, by different people.

I guess what I'm saying is that once you have a couple of thousand items collected under the headings "litgasm" and "omgasm" this is the next level of categorisation. It'd be quite a big database but an incredibly simple one. Unfortunately I don't know anything about interfacing with SMF so there's not much I can do, short of designing a table structure which would go along the lines of:

Code Select Expand

Table - PDTaglist

Fields..
TagID - Autonumber - primary key
PostID - Integer -  (indexed) - Reference to post number
TagName - Text (indexed)
Weight - integer - number of times this tag has been added to this post



There, I'm done.

GO LOOK AT DELICIOUS AGAIN, AND EXPLAIN WHY DATASTRUCTURES NEED BE IMPLEMENTED/MODIFIED.

DELICIOUS IS A SITE WHERE YOU STORE LINKS, AS IN PERMALINKS TO FORUM POSTS.  AN EXAMPLE IS THE LINK THAT POINTS BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST, AT THE TOP OF THE QUOTE SECTION.

I AM SHOUTING TO STOP YOU BEFORE YOU WASTE MORE ENERGY ON UNNEEDED PRELIMINARY WORK.



Fuck, I don't even use delicious.  But its basic function is to TAG USING FUCKING ANY URL.  Here's an example tag: blackironprison -->  http://delicious.com/search?p=blackironprison&u=&chk=&context=&fr=del_icio_us&lc=0

Altering the forum software for tags would be like hosting a video on the PD server instead of Youtube: mostly unnecessary.

[bds]

Altering the forum software for tags would be like hosting a video on the PD server instead of Youtube: mostly unnecessary.

Well, hosting on PD serv is good for things like the 1man1cup .gif.
Besides, youtube has crappy loading times, crappy video quality, and crappy irritating spam comments.
But, on the whole, yeah, youtube will do instead of filling up the PD server.

[Template]

Well, hosting on PD serv is good for things like the 1man1cup .gif.
Besides, youtube has crappy loading times, crappy video quality, and crappy irritating spam comments.
But, on the whole, yeah, youtube will do instead of filling up the PD server.

Thus my use of "mostly".  I'd worry more about the bandwidth cost of hosting videos.  Free is free, remember.



I'm not sure how much of BIP/GSP I understand, but I'd submit that a two-headed or conjoined-twin text would require that both seem dead-serious.  I'd recognize and avoid forcing/seeming to force the serious-humorous dichotomy to match up with BIP-GSP.

Also, I see an updated Hodgepodge transformer, or the five-fingered hand -><- as the visual component of the middle of the book, if we make a flipping version.

I know someone here can do the 3D programs.  Cold, black iron and warm gold might comprise the transformer, seemingly randomly combined.

[bds]

Well, hosting on PD serv is good for things like the 1man1cup .gif.
Besides, youtube has crappy loading times, crappy video quality, and crappy irritating spam comments.
But, on the whole, yeah, youtube will do instead of filling up the PD server.

Thus my use of "mostly".  I'd worry more about the bandwidth cost of hosting videos.  Free is free, remember.

Indeed.
Another sombunall fail by me.
Feel free to add to the tally, LMNO.

[Jenne]

Well, hosting on PD serv is good for things like the 1man1cup .gif.
Besides, youtube has crappy loading times, crappy video quality, and crappy irritating spam comments.
But, on the whole, yeah, youtube will do instead of filling up the PD server.

Thus my use of "mostly".  I'd worry more about the bandwidth cost of hosting videos.  Free is free, remember.

Indeed.
Another sombunall fail by me.
Feel free to add to the tally, LMNO.

See?

This is great.  Political correctness is AWESOME!

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Actually, the reason we don't have a "Lollercaust" is because we haven't written anything independently funny.  Most of the funny resides in knowing who we are, and how we interact.

and puns.

disagree: we have much LAIL contained here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15295.msg484962#msg484962 and here: http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Lollercaust
it's just that nobody's arranged it into a distributable document yet

I think I've voiced agreement with LMNO a while ago.

While the content you linked to is interesting and worthwhile reading, it isn't especially sidesplitting or humorous in the way the title "Lollercaust" would set you up to expect. Combined with that title, I find the writing a let down. If it were better contextualized I'd find it much more satisfying.

As it stands, I don't think we have much if any "Lollercaust" material. What we're calling Lollercaust is more a mishmash of oddball writing that is more thought provoking than comedic in its thrust.

[Verbal Mike]

I feel like I dropped the ball. I was working on a new edition of the BIP pamphlet in the summer, but then a load of shit made me insanely busy and I'm still riding on that same wave of stuff... I did intend to pick up where I left off once I have a little less to do (specifically, once I'm done with a kind of editing job I'm doing for the NGO I'm involved in, which will be a in a couple of months probably) - but it's more awesome with all you guys doing stuff and rethinking the pamphlet's structure and whatnot.
I would love to say I'll get involved soon but frankly there's little chance of me reading through this thread before the new year, even with the measly six pages it has so far... By the time I get to it... Meh.

Just wanted to say I'm sorry about dropping the ball. I wish I were more involved in these projects but I have IRL engagements which are currently more pressing to me. I don't need any comment on this, just couldn't sit silently by.

[fomenter]

Actually, the reason we don't have a "Lollercaust" is because we haven't written anything independently funny.  Most of the funny resides in knowing who we are, and how we interact.

and puns.

disagree: we have much LAIL contained here: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=15295.msg484962#msg484962 and here: http://www.blackironprison.com/index.php?title=Lollercaust
it's just that nobody's arranged it into a distributable document yet

I think I've voiced agreement with LMNO a while ago.

While the content you linked to is interesting and worthwhile reading, it isn't especially sidesplitting or humorous in the way the title "Lollercaust" would set you up to expect. Combined with that title, I find the writing a let down. If it were better contextualized I'd find it much more satisfying.

As it stands, I don't think we have much if any "Lollercaust" material. What we're calling Lollercaust is more a mishmash of oddball writing that is more thought provoking than comedic in its thrust.

if you want to get lollercaust to really take off you need to do what all comedy writers have done though out the ages -  steal remorselessly from existing material and tweak it to your own ends to make it relevant and discordian. 

i would suggest  a  thread called steal this joke where we post good jokes we have heard and then mess around with tweaking them "or stealing outright" and see what happens or if any good lollercaust material results.

[Cain]

Because I want to help, and time is brief

http://uploading.com/files/DB8ID8SL/ComedWrit.rar.html

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It may not be very useful, but its a framework you can build from.

Also http://www.uploading.com/files/LBWYI71F/ComBibl.rar.html

[LMNO]

Well, hosting on PD serv is good for things like the 1man1cup .gif.
Besides, youtube has crappy loading times, crappy video quality, and crappy irritating spam comments.
But, on the whole, yeah, youtube will do instead of filling up the PD server.

Thus my use of "mostly".  I'd worry more about the bandwidth cost of hosting videos.  Free is free, remember.

Indeed.
Another sombunall fail by me.
Feel free to add to the tally, LMNO.

See?

This is great.  Political correctness is AWESOME!

Everything is going according to plan.  I don't even have to comment anymore!

[Cramulus]

Anyway, back on topic:

Ratatosk volunteered to edit a GSP booklet
and GA volunteered to edit a BIP booklet

I'd suggest that you two should go forward with it - make the book into what you think it should be. Conference with us ITT, but don't wait for "approval" to go forward.


rewriting Discordian lit is akin to a Jedi building his own lightsaber.

[Manta Obscura]

rewriting Discordian lit is akin to a Jedi building his own lightsaber.

Appropriate metaphor, Cram. In the case of the GSP and the BIP, there's even a "light" side and a "dark" side, too.

[LMNO]

"There is no side."
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[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I personally would like to stay away from "light vs dark" because I'm concerned it will reinforce the assumption that the BiP is Negative. Personally, I'd like the GSP to focus on the "possibilities" of looking at how we perceive our world. A Prison might be a great metaphor sometimes, Shrapnel sometimes, Ruts and Peaks and Slopes sometimes, Golden Spheres sometimes... and all of them might be useful to look at... all of them might usefully model some aspects of your life... Sometimes we're trapped by our decision, like in a prison, sometimes people have a lasting effect on us like Shrapnel, sometimes we're stuck in a Rut, sometimes we have a modicum of control and get to go explore.

If we play this Light vs Dark, I think we create an unnecessary Either/OR rather than an AND.

Thoughts?