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Started by Richter, January 23, 2009, 08:00:40 PM

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Reginald Ret

quick! someone steal their ideas before ESF is destroyed!

http://earthsongforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=73
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Discovery channel has been running a show were they stuck a bunch pof pepple i an abandoned machine shop and told them to pretend the world ended.  Some pretty good ideas out of it so far, like wood gasification (they have functioning electricity from it).
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Cain

hzzp://avaxhome.ws/ebooks/personality/health_healthcare_fitness/1071558.html

Emergency: This Book Will Save Your Life By Neil Strauss
Publisher: It Books 2009-03-01 | 432 Pages | ISBN: 0060898771 | PDF | 16 MB

Terrorist attacks. Natural disasters. Domestic crackdowns. Economic collapse. Riots. Wars. Disease. Starvation.

What can you do when it all hits the fan?

You can learn to be self-sufficient and survive without the system.

**I've started to look at the world through apocalypse eyes.** So begins Neil Strauss's harrowing new book: his first full-length worksince the international bestseller The Game, and one of the most original-and provocative-narratives of the year.

After the last few years of violence and terror, of ethnic and religious hatred, of tsunamis and hurricanes–and now of world financial meltdown–Strauss, like most of his generation, came to the sobering realization that, even in America, anything can happen. But rather than watch helplessly, he decided to do something about it. And so he spent three years traveling through a country that's lost its sense of safety, equipping himself with the tools necessary to save himself and his loved ones from an uncertain future.

With the same quick wit and eye for cultural trends that marked The Game, The Dirt, and How to Make Love Like a Porn Star, Emergency traces Neil's white-knuckled journey through today's heart of darkness, as he sets out to move his life offshore, test his skills in the wild, and remake himself as a gun-toting, plane-flying, government-defying survivor. It's a tale of paranoid fantasies and crippling doubts, of shady lawyers and dangerous cult leaders, of billionaire gun nuts and survivalist superheroes, of weirdos, heroes, and ordinary citizens going off the grid.

It's one man's story of a dangerous world–and how to stay alive in it.

Before the next disaster strikes, you're going to want to read this book. And you'll want to do everything it suggests. Because tomorrow doesn't come with a guarantee...

Cainad (dec.)

Cain, peeking over my shoulder in the IRL bookstore to see what books I picked up off the shelf to peruse earlier today and then "coincidentally" finding the same book in e-format to post on PD a few hours later isn't funny. It's creepy.

rygD

How did I miss this.

I have a decent collection of ebooks on or related to this topic I could try to share.  Some fiction...still good stuff.  As for everything else, I will give advice, but after that you are on your own. 

They tell me I am crazy for wanting to build my earth sheltered house in the mountains of the southwest US and trying to stockpile food and ammo.  They won't be talking shit when they need shit from me.  Then I just laugh!

Really, though, it just comes down to taking a little time and maybe a little money and looking at potential problems that may occur, and finding the tools and resources that you will best help you overcome the obstacles that might make your way of living difficult.  Some training/practice and a few little things that it makes sense to keep around anyway greatly help you out.

Anyway, might get the chance to look through this eventually
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Triple Zero

Cain, thanks! a friend of mine kept pushing me I should read it but for some reason he hasn't lent it to me yet, this will get me started :) thanks loads.
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Richter

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Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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Triple Zero

I'm nearly through "Emergency", it's well-written, but has a lot more story and "look at me being tougher than my make up doll russian girlfriend" in it than practical advice.

Especially the first part, where he sets out to get a second nationality. Not being American, I really couldn't care less about that. My gf being half Dutch / half German (currently only German nationality, but will be a dual one day), I'm aware of the red tape and bureaucratic hoops. But then again, being a EU citizen, the second nationality isn't that crucial for me I guess.

The whole survivalism stuff is much more interesting.

Oh and a littlebit OT, but the guy mentioned a few times that he had to take a shit because of something he just ate, and also like more than 3 times a day? Wtf? Food takes like 30-36 hours to move through your bowels, how can your lunch meal make you wanna shit right after? Also, if necessary you can keep in your shit to once a day, right. Ah well. Maybe Americans have different bowels?

Either way, the book is a good read, and provides a couple of pointers for stuff you might wanna try to learn yourself.

I should probably learn to use a knife (but do you need a teacher for that? I could get a piece of wood and start practicing carving,  no?), and (still!) some mixed martial arts stuff. And maybe knife fighting? Although, the one bit of advice I read in a blog somewhere (stick it in the neck and turn 90 degrees) is probably all I need in addition to hand combat.

And, yes, learn to shoot a gun. But that's kind of more difficult in NL. So I'm gonna skip that for a while, WTSHTF there won't be that many guns anyway. And neither do our supermarkets and gas stations stock ammo :)
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Reginald Ret

Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Oh and a littlebit OT, but the guy mentioned a few times that he had to take a shit because of something he just ate, and also like more than 3 times a day? Wtf? Food takes like 30-36 hours to move through your bowels, how can your lunch meal make you wanna shit right after? Also, if necessary you can keep in your shit to once a day, right. Ah well. Maybe Americans have different bowels?

Maybe in the same way as coffee makes you shit?
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

"The worst forum ever" "The most mediocre forum on the internet" "The dumbest forum on the internet" "The most retarded forum on the internet" "The lamest forum on the internet" "The coolest forum on the internet"

Elder Iptuous

i always thought it was 5-8 hrs to go from cud to turd...
also, my kryptonite is using toilets other than my own, and so i have developed the super power of not shitting for 3-4 days even eating normally...

Triple Zero

Quote from: Regret on November 16, 2009, 01:00:05 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on November 14, 2009, 12:56:47 PM
Oh and a littlebit OT, but the guy mentioned a few times that he had to take a shit because of something he just ate, and also like more than 3 times a day? Wtf? Food takes like 30-36 hours to move through your bowels, how can your lunch meal make you wanna shit right after? Also, if necessary you can keep in your shit to once a day, right. Ah well. Maybe Americans have different bowels?

Maybe in the same way as coffee makes you shit?

Hm yeah coffee does do that.
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Golden Applesauce

Yeah, the 24-36 hour time is what it takes for (solid?) food to complete digestion and clear the body properly.  (IIRC liquids take much less, since they don't have to be dissolved in the stomach first.)

Fortunately, the digestive system has some "Emergency Abort, Clear The Pipes" functions, which can cut that time down, at the expense (possibly benefit) of not fully digesting the food.  Useful when the intestines detect pathogens - gets the stuff out of your body before it can do much harm.
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