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Point of views on the new president of the United States.

Started by Seth_The_Fallen, February 15, 2009, 02:28:54 AM

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#105
February 18, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
Bush himself appointed both Ashcroft AND Gonzales to be AG.

that, in and of itself, would be enough to condemn him as a bad president.
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#106
February 19, 2009, 12:43:37 AM
Quote from: Dirtytime on February 18, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
Bush himself appointed both Ashcroft AND Gonzales to be AG.

that, in and of itself, would be enough to condemn him as a bad president.

Don't forget Mukasey.
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#107
February 19, 2009, 12:46:35 AM
Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
If it is so wrong then tell me why did almost every bill Bush vetoed got passed by congress and he got blamed for it.

Perhaps you can give us an example?  Because Bush didn't veto ANYTHING for the first 6 years of his presidency, and he NEVER vetoed a spending bill.

Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
I think your taking what the media is spoon feeding you.

Actually, I base my opinion on his record.  But don't let that stop the Limbaugh-isms.

Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 PM
Just like the obama shit.  It is not a god thing to have a person running for a political office allow the hit and run media give him free Show time on the Tv. it Makes me sick thinking about how they used the Tv to get in the voters heads and made the choice on who to vote for. Would you like any examples of what I am talking about? I can get them for you with ease.

Wait.  Are you suggesting that the TV can control your brain?

But by all means, yes.  Let's see some examples.
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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#108
February 19, 2009, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: Ratatosk on February 18, 2009, 10:57:55 PM
I find DK preferable n00b material than this... wow.

I disagree.  At least Seth is making conversation, not simply announcing what a genius he is.

The fact that I strenuously disagree with his opinion and his reasoning does not put him on the same level as DK.  For example, Seth has not announced that women are simply breeding tools, and that only people who study dead French syphilitics should be able to pass on their genes.

I'll also state that being a both a Bushie and a Discordian is by NO MEANS impossible.  Hell, Bush did more to advance chaos than any president since James Buchanon...even if only by LMNO's Dictum (The imposition of order creates a corresponding, and larger, amount of disorder).
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#109
February 19, 2009, 12:52:56 AM Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 12:55:28 AM by Pastor-Mullah Zappathruster
Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 PMalmost every bill Bush vetoed got passed by congress and he got blamed for it.
Bush's vetoes:

1. Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005 (H.R. 810): sustained
2. US Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability (HR 1591): sustained
3. Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007 (S 5): unchallenged
4. Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (HR 976): sustained
5. Water Resources Development Act of 2007 (HR 1495): overridden
6. Appropriations: Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, 2008 (HR 3043): sustained
7. Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (HR 3963): sustained
8. National Defense Authorization Act for FY2008 (HR 1585): unchallenged
9. Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (HR 2082): sustained
10. Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008 (HR 2419): overridden
11. Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008 (HR 6124): overridden
12. Medicare Improvement for Patients and Providers Act of 2008 (HR 6331): overridden

Bush vetoed 12 bills.  Four of them were overridden.  Four out of 12 is hardly "almost every". 

Now which of these are we blaming Bush for?

(Edited to add: source)
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#110
February 19, 2009, 02:05:15 AM
Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 17, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
I think the one and only big mistake he did was make the terrorist camps and cities a big crater then into a Walmart.

What in the hell does it MEAN?
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#111
February 19, 2009, 03:11:08 AM
Quote from: The Revered Asshat on February 19, 2009, 02:05:15 AM
Quote from: Seth_The_Fallen on February 17, 2009, 09:34:17 PM
I think the one and only big mistake he did was make the terrorist camps and cities a big crater then into a Walmart.

What in the hell does it MEAN?

I think it means he blew them up and then built Walmarts there.

But he didn't.  Either one.

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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#112
February 19, 2009, 04:12:04 AM
I like the new president, but I worry because he seems just a little bit too good. People treat him like he's some kind of god come down to Earth, which leads me to believe that he might be :fnord: The Anti-Christ  :mrgreen:
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#113
February 19, 2009, 04:18:00 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on February 19, 2009, 04:12:04 AM
I like the new president, but I worry because he seems just a little bit too good. People treat him like he's some kind of god come down to Earth, which leads me to believe that he might be :fnord: The Anti-Christ  :mrgreen:

Sucker.

He's worse.  He's the Anti-ANTI-Christ.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jasper

#114
February 19, 2009, 04:45:27 AM
Position taken, Re: Dave Brockie.

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#115
February 19, 2009, 05:39:14 AM
Damn! You beat me to it! :argh!:
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#116
February 20, 2009, 02:55:46 AM
Quote from: Felix on February 19, 2009, 04:45:27 AM
Position taken, Re: Dave Brockie.

Who?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#118
February 20, 2009, 12:42:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 19, 2009, 12:43:37 AM
Quote from: Dirtytime on February 18, 2009, 11:20:07 PM
Bush himself appointed both Ashcroft AND Gonzales to be AG.

that, in and of itself, would be enough to condemn him as a bad president.

Don't forget Mukasey.

Ashcroft almost redeemed himself in that hospital episode though.  I felt, at least.

As for Bush, he had all the failings of a militarist and none of the virtues.  A sort of anti-Napoleon, his genius was in turning even the most simple conflict into a possibly debilitating combat with disasterous consequences for the US.  And worst of all, he only did it for the money.  Terribly small-minded, considering the position.

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#119
February 20, 2009, 01:58:49 PM
Apparently he and Dick Cheney are on the outs now, because Bush didn't pardon Scooter. From what I've read Cheney was hounding him endlessly about the pardon right up until their last day in office.  At one point Bush just came out and told Cheney to bugger off and he wasn't going to hear of it anymore.   
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