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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, March 08, 2009, 01:18:16 AM

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#150
March 11, 2009, 12:25:01 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Yes.
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#151
March 11, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Its all three.

The Good Reverend Roger

#152
March 11, 2009, 01:08:01 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? 

Yes.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#153
March 11, 2009, 01:09:14 AM
Quote from: Nigel on March 10, 2009, 06:38:07 AM
Nope, but I wouldn't hang out with a bunch of them for fun, either.

Then how can you smite them?   :?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#154
March 11, 2009, 01:10:41 AM
Quote from: Kai on March 10, 2009, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2009, 03:03:06 AM
Quote from: Kai on March 10, 2009, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 10, 2009, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: Kai on March 09, 2009, 03:48:30 AM
Actually, symbols are somewhat arbitrary.

Words are not.

Not if we plan on having anything more than that "all is maya" crap.

Words are not meaningless. That doesn't mean that the fact that these particular scritch marks here indicate this sound here and that sound indicates a particular concept, that doesn't mean those conjunctions of lines and sound and meaning have any particular meaning above the meaning of the concept. Words are symbols, and symbols are somewhat arbitrary, not in MEANING, but in FORM.

For example, take the written letters "you". That a line crossed down to a longer line next to a circle next to an arch together indicate a particular sound and a particular meaning is arbitrary. The letters that indicate those sounds could have turned out like anything, those set of lines only have that particular meaning because we all agree they have that particular meaning. Its otherwise somewhat arbitrary.

Thats what I was saying. Not that "all is maya" or whatever you are talking about.

Sorry.  My symbols seem to have suddenly jumped out of phase with yours, arbitrarily, and I couldn't make heads or tails of your post.  No offense; it seems that I have gorgoplatz.  Arib?  Jsyt mig poop?

Okay.

Kai,

Knows when its time to leave a discussion.

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DID THAT SECOND PART ON PURPOSE.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#155
March 11, 2009, 01:13:30 AM
Quote from: Skieth on March 11, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Its all three.

Isn't.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Soylent Green

#156
March 11, 2009, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2009, 01:13:30 AM
Quote from: Skieth on March 11, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Its all three.

Isn't.


Really now?

The Good Reverend Roger

#157
March 11, 2009, 01:53:29 AM
Quote from: Skieth on March 11, 2009, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 11, 2009, 01:13:30 AM
Quote from: Skieth on March 11, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Its all three.

Isn't.


Really now?

Srsly.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#159
March 11, 2009, 12:32:25 PM
Well, it lasted 10 pages, at least.  Not a bad showing.

AFK

#160
March 11, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 10, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Spidermang: He a spider. He a mang. He bofe.

Okay so now I'm picturing Mangrove swinging from building to building saving the day by giving people massages and cracking the bad guys' backs. 
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#161
March 11, 2009, 03:14:56 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 11, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 10, 2009, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on March 10, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Wait, so now is it a joke wrapped in a religion or has it changed to a religion wrapped in a joke? I'm so confused. 

Spidermang: He a spider. He a mang. He bofe.

Okay so now I'm picturing Mangrove swinging from building to building saving the day by giving people massages and cracking the bad guys' backs. 

Mangrove! Fuck yeah. I was having flashbacks to klock kaos but mangrove is much better  :lulz:

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#162
March 11, 2009, 06:53:09 PM
I appreciate your post, Nigel. oftentimes lately I find I'm reluctant to talk about religion at all because the mere mention of anything religious seems to just start a shitstorm of ridicule that makes me feel uncomfortable.

it's entirely possible that my discomfort is rooted in my uncertainty over the form of my "religion" or "spirituality" or whatever it would be labeled if I were to give it one, which I'd rather not. even using the word "beliefs" seems to be an invitation for people to criticize, advise, or ridicule, plus it reminds me too much of my mother's statement of her "beliefs" which in my estimation was deliberately vague so as to avoid having any kind of belief in anything.

I spent 20 years in a fundamentalist (and corrupt) cult. one day I realized I was insufferably critical of people (outsiders) who I would have actually wanted to have as friends, except that the rule-set I'd embraced made friendship impossible. that led me to question things I'd been too afraid to question (long story, although anyone who's been in a cult might have a clue about the fear of appearing to be a non-conformist) and eventually led to breaking away completely.

I'm more or less a spiritual agnostic at this point. I don't actually know what that entails from day to day.

all this has really led up to telling a story of an experience I had when I was in the cult. we were having statewide gathering/conference at a hotel and it just so happened that the athiests society was having one at the same time at the same hotel. both camps spent time examining displays and eavesdropping. the thing that struck me most was that there was essentially no difference in the materials presented or the fervor with which adherents embraced their position. the bumper stickers, the t-shirts, the books, the speakers... all the noise to get god and religion out of everything... it was itself a religion.

it struck me as ironic. it continues to both amuse and annoy me to this day.

also, a question for those who state they know more about christianity than their christian friends.... what is christianity? I don't really want you to answer me since I suspect it might be a derailment and I don't really care what you think it is, but the point I do want to make is there are as many flavors of christianity as there are flavors of ice cream, and familiarity with religious scriptures does not equate to familiarity with interpretation and practice across the various sects, so the statement of superior knowledge seems both arrogant and ignorant.
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#163
March 11, 2009, 06:55:12 PM
Ice cream is better.

Yes, there are better things to have pissing matches over than who knows religion better than someone else.

And welcome to the fold. 
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#164
March 11, 2009, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: potato on March 11, 2009, 06:53:09 PM
I spent 20 years in a fundamentalist (and corrupt) cult.

Stories, stories and more stories, pls.

Liek, immediately, or I will be forced to flame you :walken:

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