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ITT we define god

Started by P3nT4gR4m, March 09, 2009, 07:59:50 PM

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Iason Ouabache

#45
March 11, 2009, 04:44:27 AM
Quote from: Felix on March 10, 2009, 05:17:23 AM
God is force.
God = mass X acceleration.


As to the OP:  Don't ask me, I'm an Ignostic.   :wink:
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

#46
March 11, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on March 11, 2009, 04:44:27 AM
Quote from: Felix on March 10, 2009, 05:17:23 AM
God is force.
God = mass X acceleration.

Maybe...
Mass = All the mass in the Universe (multiverse/universes/branes/whatthefuckever)
Acceleration = Movement of all that mass from point of Big Bang or ? or Whatthefuckever started all this shit.

Mass x Acceleration = What makes existence possible = God?
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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LMNO

#47
March 11, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
If God is force, and force is calculated by the mass of the universe times the acceleration from the big bang, then...


God was created after the big bang.

P3nT4gR4m

#48
March 11, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
"self begotten" does tend to lead to that chicken and egg-ish kinda paradox.

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hooplala

#49
March 11, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
GOD:



"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

P3nT4gR4m

#50
March 11, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
... and the guy with the bone up his nose?

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#51
March 11, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
If God is force, and force is calculated by the mass of the universe times the acceleration from the big bang, then...


God was created after the big bang.

Maybe... God (as defined above) in potentia would have existed before the Big Bang (or Big Collision if the Brane theory is more correct). However, God in action would have existed at the MOMENT of the Big Bang.

Of course, this sort of God would still just be a metaphor for "Stuff".
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

hooplala

#52
March 11, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
... and the guy with the bone up his nose?

Screamin Jay Hawkins!!!!


Jesus Harold Christ...
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

LMNO

#53
March 11, 2009, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 11, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
If God is force, and force is calculated by the mass of the universe times the acceleration from the big bang, then...


God was created after the big bang.

Maybe... God (as defined above) in potentia would have existed before the Big Bang (or Big Collision if the Brane theory is more correct). However, God in action would have existed at the MOMENT of the Big Bang.

Of course, this sort of God would still just be a metaphor for "Stuff".

If Acceleration is Zero before the big bang, then God would be Nothing (if G=m*a)

You seem to be implying that God may, however, be energy.  Which is another bag of fish.

Jenne

#54
March 11, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
Quote from: Dr Hoopla on March 11, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 11, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
... and the guy with the bone up his nose?

Screamin Jay Hawkins!!!!


Jesus Harold Christ...

So THAT'S what the "H" stands for...

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

#55
March 11, 2009, 03:01:03 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on March 11, 2009, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 11, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
If God is force, and force is calculated by the mass of the universe times the acceleration from the big bang, then...


God was created after the big bang.

Maybe... God (as defined above) in potentia would have existed before the Big Bang (or Big Collision if the Brane theory is more correct). However, God in action would have existed at the MOMENT of the Big Bang.

Of course, this sort of God would still just be a metaphor for "Stuff".

If Acceleration is Zero before the big bang, then God would be Nothing (if G=m*a)

You seem to be implying that God may, however, be energy.  Which is another bag of fish.

Well, I don't think this is god at all, I was just going with the God Is Force idea to see where it went.

So if God is the Force of the expansion of the Universe after *the big whatever*, then God would have come into existence at the moment of the *insert phenomenon here*.... Unless, of course the singularity or whatever was NOT static before that point. Was it contracting before it expanded? If so, there would be mass and acceleration there...

However, its still just seems like a bad metaphor to me.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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Thurnez Isa

#56
March 11, 2009, 04:03:36 PM
QuoteThere are always a few who find me after class and want to pin me down. They ask me point-blank: "Do you believe in God?"


And I tell each of them, "Yes."

Puzzled, they ask: "What kind of God?"


Over the years I have struggled to come up with a simple but precise answer to that question. And, eventually I found it. I believe in Darwin's God.

Dr. Ken Miller
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Telarus

#57
March 11, 2009, 04:20:24 PM Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 04:54:04 PM by Telarus
Shades of God the Watchmaker ITT.

Most of the popular theological conceptions of God stem from an era where physics wasn't that well understood. God "The Prime Mover" is a faulty metaphor based of the Aristotelian premise of "the heavens as nested crystal spheres" and the old, faulty conception of momentum (which is that movement doesn't happen unless an active force is push/pulling it, and stops when said force is removed).

Without Newton's F=MA (2nd law) and previous to any conception of "acceleration" or the imparting of force to an object, along with the lack of the corresponding 1st and 3rd Laws... well, that's the conception of the universe and God that was used to discuss theology. So, within the Aristotelian conception of Deity, the Universe was created as a static object of nested complexity, and then was "Pushed", all at once, into motion by the "Prime mover", who would then serve as the ActiveForce to drive all of the observable universe.

Our knowledge of physics today shows how this conception of Diety is LAUGHABLE (and not in the good way). Unfortunately, it has buried itself deep, deep within the memetic structure of the Christian churches. This, I think, was the Malevolent Demiurge that the Gnostics recognized. The false conception of Deity based on the false conception of Universe.
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LMNO

#58
March 11, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
NO U.

Thurnez Isa

#59
March 11, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Telarus on March 11, 2009, 04:20:24 PM
Shades of God the Watchmaker ITT.


I sincerely doubt Dr Ken Miller falls into that camp
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.
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