RWHN's adventures in Teenage Land.

[AFK]

Doctorate in physics eh?  That's awesome.  I liked physics but there's no way I'd have the patience or discipline to go that far with it.  Chemistry I could get into and economics.  Best wishes for your pursuit!

[AFK]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html 

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                        http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                        http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                        http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                        http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                        http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                        http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence. 

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have. 

[Faust]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html 

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                        http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                        http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                        http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                        http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                        http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                        http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence. 

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have. 

As with any government body the average competent person to shit is 1 in 10. It's only fitting that they do occasional good and mostly shit (through the eyes of an outside observer), especially in a country that seems to have a systemically corrupt/broken or ineffectual civil body.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I said I was having doubts, and asked you to confirm it directly. Kai says that you confirmed it, and I've already said that I don't think you would directly lie. Whether ECH believes it is up to him. However, as reality doesn't seem to be your strong suit, you can go on thinking that I'm ardently denying that you're the guy who goes around to high schools telling kids not to do drugs.

Not even sure I believe that you work in the field that you claim to work in, at this point.

In other words, he actually does the job he claims to do, but doesn't have a degree in a related field.

I dunno Nigel, it looks like you were pretty sure I was being less than truthful about my career and experience.  But I'm glad to see that you've come to accept the truth. (or is it the truth?)

RWHN,
Tom Petty Fan. 

I love the smell of butthurt in the morning. 

Why would I believe that you have a degree in, say, public health, when you refuse to actually say what degree you have? Kinda makes it look like you might be, I dunno, hiding something.

[East Coast Hustle]

I'm willing to believe that RWHN does actually work in the field of youth prevention, but I remain completely unconvinced that he has any educational qualification to do so.

There you go!  Atta boy!  That was the brand of stubborn denial I was looking for.  I'm glad SOMEONE is still coming through.

Don't worry about it, I've had people calling bullshit when I tell them I am doing my doctorate in physics, which was more baffling then upsetting.

It's baffling because you aren't known for going around spouting idiotic misinformation and propaganda when it comes to physics.

On the other hand, it's completely understandable because most people have a hard time believing that things like "physics" have reached Ireland.

[East Coast Hustle]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html 

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                        http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                        http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                        http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                        http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                        http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                        http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence. 

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have. 

I like how you COMPLETELY ignored the part about them being in bed with the CIA in setting up crack dealers and funneling the profits back to the Contras.

[AFK]

I said I was having doubts, and asked you to confirm it directly. Kai says that you confirmed it, and I've already said that I don't think you would directly lie. Whether ECH believes it is up to him. However, as reality doesn't seem to be your strong suit, you can go on thinking that I'm ardently denying that you're the guy who goes around to high schools telling kids not to do drugs.

Not even sure I believe that you work in the field that you claim to work in, at this point.

In other words, he actually does the job he claims to do, but doesn't have a degree in a related field.

I dunno Nigel, it looks like you were pretty sure I was being less than truthful about my career and experience.  But I'm glad to see that you've come to accept the truth. (or is it the truth?)

RWHN,
Tom Petty Fan. 

I love the smell of butthurt in the morning. 

Why would I believe that you have a degree in, say, public health, when you refuse to actually say what degree you have? Kinda makes it look like you might be, I dunno, hiding something.

Maybe I'm high but I think questioning whether or not someone works in the job they claim to work in isn't exactly the same thing as questioning credentials. 

[Faust]

On the other hand, it's completely understandable because most people have a hard time believing that things like "physics" have reached Ireland.

True enough.

[Scribbly]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html 

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                        http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                        http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                        http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                        http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                        http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                        http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence. 

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have. 

I like how you COMPLETELY ignored the part about them being in bed with the CIA in setting up crack dealers and funneling the profits back to the Contras.

They probably weren't doing it maliciously.

Maybe they channelled the money back to the Contras grandmothers, and then sent someone around to collect their expired prescriptions? That's probably it. God, you people see conspiracies everywhere.  

[AFK]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html 

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                        http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                        http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                        http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                        http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                        http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                        http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence. 

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have. 

I like how you COMPLETELY ignored the part about them being in bed with the CIA in setting up crack dealers and funneling the profits back to the Contras.

Hmm, well, that article about something that happened a couple of decades ago at best suggests that the DEA was sitting on information, likely at the behest of the Regan administration.  Now, that certainly isn't an admirable quality and I'm not going to applaud it at all.  But that was over 20 years ago, no?  Do you have anything a little more current?  

[East Coast Hustle]

IT'S OK THAT THEY DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THEIR JOB BECAUSE IT HAPPENED 20 YEARS AGO!
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[AFK]

 Now, that certainly isn't an admirable quality and I'm not going to applaud it at all.  

[East Coast Hustle]

But I'm sure it was an isolated incident and is totally not reflective of the overall integrity of the organization.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

CIA/DEA drugs - http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/ciadrug.html  

Also worth a read is the Dark Alliance series of articles by Gary Webb of the San Jose Mercury, who "committed suicide" shortly after they were published.

DEA raids wrong houses:  see http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/07/report_dea_agents_raid_wrong_h.html
                                       http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/08/04/dea-agents-raid-wrong-home-in-garfield/
                                       http://veracitystew.com/2011/01/14/police-dea-raid-wrong-house-13-year-old-girl-taken-to-hospital/
                                       http://rt.com/usa/news/detroit-raid-tossa-dea/
                                       http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/an-update-on-the-wrong-house-r
                                       http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382881
                                       http://www.federaljack.com/?p=3334

Well, I certainly won't suggest that they aren't subject to incompetence.  And certainly they should be addressing their information systems to make sure they aren't raiding the wrong houses.  And I certainly hope they are making some kind of restitution to the families they've impacted with that incompetence.  

However, I think bouts of incompetence is different than malicious intent which I read quite often when it comes to the DEA.  They really do a lot of good work domestically such as the medicine disposal program I cited earlier.  That gets a shit ton of medicines out of peoples homes particularly the elderly who will often be targets for break-ins precisely because of the large stores of medicines they tend to have.  

I like how you COMPLETELY ignored the part about them being in bed with the CIA in setting up crack dealers and funneling the profits back to the Contras.

Hmm, well, that article about something that happened a couple of decades ago at best suggests that the DEA was sitting on information, likely at the behest of the Regan administration.  Now, that certainly isn't an admirable quality and I'm not going to applaud it at all.  But that was over 20 years ago, no?  Do you have anything a little more current?  

History seems to indicate that most of the bad things they're doing now will not become public knowledge for about 20 years.

[AFK]

But I'm sure it was an isolated incident and is totally not reflective of the overall integrity of the organization.

Well, if you provide some current examples we'll know won't we?  Don't fail us ECH!  Shine the light, FOR JUSTICE!!!