Reccommendations for cook top

[Jenne]

Unless the house is designed weird.  Older houses especially, you may have to remove whole sections of wall / ceiling / floor to run any new pipes or wires.

That's what we were told, it was the construction of the way the house was orignally built.

Let's put it this way:  it cost us $13K to get our a/c hooked up and running.  THIRTEEN thousand.  Home improvement is not cheap out here if you hire someone to do it for you.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

  Well, that's what was quoted to me.    Guess I should have called them a liar or something???  And no, this is CA, we don't do basements, not in the Southern part, anyway.  And yes, for me, it would be from the garage to the kitchen, and they are diametrically opposite each other.

But most have to take out a 2d mortgage around here in order to redo their kitchens with gas lines for the stove/oven.  That's just how it goes out here.

But the costs in converting to gas for us would be about $20K, all told, someone who recently put gas in told us.

I'm not saying that your friend who had gas put in was lying about how much it cost them to convert, I'm saying that if a professional tells you they're going to charge you $20,000 to run a line from your laundry room to your kitchen, get a second quote.

Redoing a kitchen is one thing. Running a gas line is another.

[Triple Zero]

also, it should be mentioned that gas stoves can be easily repaired by even a novice handyman. They are very simple devices, whereas you wil likely have to either pay a professional repairman or buy a new one if your flattop range shits the bed.

protip: if you wanna be sure the pipe doesnt secretly leak gas, smear a bit of dishwashing liquid around the seams, there will be bubbles if it leaks.

(also, depending on the model, you may or may not need "gas pipe tape", which is a special kind of tape to seal the pipe)

not that I'm that much of a handyman, but this is what I was told to do when connecting a gas stove to your gas connection.

[Jenne]

  Well, that's what was quoted to me.    Guess I should have called them a liar or something???  And no, this is CA, we don't do basements, not in the Southern part, anyway.  And yes, for me, it would be from the garage to the kitchen, and they are diametrically opposite each other.

But most have to take out a 2d mortgage around here in order to redo their kitchens with gas lines for the stove/oven.  That's just how it goes out here.

But the costs in converting to gas for us would be about $20K, all told, someone who recently put gas in told us.

I'm not saying that your friend who had gas put in was lying about how much it cost them to convert, I'm saying that if a professional tells you they're going to charge you $20,000 to run a line from your laundry room to your kitchen, get a second quote.

Redoing a kitchen is one thing. Running a gas line is another.

Yeah, well this was a discussion on redoing specifically the electric to gas stove and oven.  So like I said--and people around here get LOTS of quotes--it cost them $20K to do it (Ok, more like $17.5, so we can quibble over 2.5K).  *shrug*  Believe it or not, I don't care.


ETA:  and redoing the whole kitchen?  Initial quote:  $35K.  That's recent (this $20K above, oh I'm SORRY, $17.5K, was 3 years ago), and this was their initial quote.  Initial STARTING quote.  Because we all know you can be QUOTED anything, and the $17.5 was "all told" as I said--in the END it cost them $17.5 K.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm sure you're telling the truth, but I'm only capable of responding to what you've actually posted, not information you haven't posted.

I am just skeptical at the idea that it could cost almost 20 grand to run a pipe from the laundry room to the kitchen, and I sincerely doubt your friend's installation was nearly that simple or it wouldn't have cost that much. Of course your friend's costs, I'm just doubting it was as simple as extending a line from existing gas service in the house.

The mechanics of running a line don't vary much from Oregon to California. I ran my kitchen line myself for $15, but even paying my plumber to do it would have been a lot cheaper than my garage was, and, like I said, that was seven lines for $600. Due to my line of work, I have discussed gasline installation and extension with a lot of people all over the country, and I have never heard of a line extension that cost more than $950 (that was to the second floor) with most being just a few hundred.

Unless your plumber charges $3000/hr., takes all day, and does structural damage, it should not be terribly expensive.

I don't know exactly what your friend had done, but no matter where you live, there is little conceivable reason why simply extending an existing gasline on the main floor of a house should cost thousands. It should cost hundreds. Unless you get a quote for your situation from a licensed plumber, I'm just not convinced you should assume your friend's costs would be applicable for you.

This website is helpful, and fairly accurate in my experience:

http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/install-gas-line.html

Basically, all I'm saying is that if you want a gas stove, don't listen to your friend, call a plumber and get a quote.

[East Coast Hustle]

also, it should be mentioned that gas stoves can be easily repaired by even a novice handyman. They are very simple devices, whereas you wil likely have to either pay a professional repairman or buy a new one if your flattop range shits the bed.

protip: if you wanna be sure the pipe doesnt secretly leak gas, smear a bit of dishwashing liquid around the seams, there will be bubbles if it leaks.

(also, depending on the model, you may or may not need "gas pipe tape", which is a special kind of tape to seal the pipe)

not that I'm that much of a handyman, but this is what I was told to do when connecting a gas stove to your gas connection.

yes on both. And AFAIK, you should always use thread tape for joining metal pipes.

[Kai]

I have to agree with ECH, your ability to control temperature quickly is far superior in a gas than an electric stove, and therefore your stove top cooking experience is much improved.

[Cainad (dec.)]

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Disregard the picture I posted earlier ITT. I'm at home now and I can plainly see that we have a Kenmore brand glass-top cooking range. Cleaning consists entirely of a sponge+soap+water. Heat control is indeed less than you would get from a gas range, but that doesn't stop my dad from doing some pretty good cooking on it.

[Kai]

stir frying on a electric stove leaves much to be desired

it doesn't matter much when you are slow cooking though

[LMNO]

stir frying on a electric stove is pretty much completely impossible.

Fixed for accuracy.

[Sepia]

Induction if you're not going gas. Induction is the only electric top I've liked working with.

ikea has some but i have no clue as to quality

[P3nT4gR4m]

If it's too expensive to run a pipe to your kitchen buy a cheap camping stove. Even one of those pieces of crap is better than an electric hob

[East Coast Hustle]

I once lived in a house with a gas stove and no gas infrastructure.

with 2 fittings, 4 feet of copper pipe, and a Blue Rhino propane tank I had a perfectly serviceable gas stove/oven and those Rhino tanks would generally last me a month and cost $20 to swap for a new full tank anywhere that has a Blue Rhino outlet, which is damn near everywhere.

ETA: IIRC, AmeriGas is more prevalent on the West Coast but has the same price structure ($40 for a new tank, $20 to swap your empty for a new full one)

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'd recommend black iron pipe through the wall with an inside shutoff. Might cost $50 for the pipe and shutoff, depending on the length of the run, but then you do have to drill a hole through your exterior wall. And you'll need a regulator for the tank, I think pancake regulators are about $15.

Totally doable though. I studied under a plumber for two years... it's so much easier than most people think. Like Tinkertoys, but you have to be really meticulous.

Do nevar have propane tanks indoors, whatever you do. My work means that every time someone accidentally blows their neighborhood to kingdom come it's the talk of glasstown. 

[East Coast Hustle]

when it's 20 below zero outside, the idea of blowing yourself up seems alot more palatable than the idea of having to go outside to fuck with your propane tank.