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The BIP is not a Discordian work: discuss

Started by Cain, June 02, 2009, 06:09:31 PM

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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Cain on June 09, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 09, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 09, 2009, 04:00:11 PM
Um no.

The reason I get defensive is because the argument put up against it is crap.  You actually have an argument Tosk, and you're not getting treated like Nobody.  Did you ever think those two things might be related.

Short summation FOR THE THIRD TIME:  Nobody's argument is "I don't like it due to subjective personal preferences, therefore it is not Discordian."

That's it.  Nothing more.  Its like those people on certain political websites who will insist, against all political science evidence that Nazism is a "far left ideology".  Why?  Because they define themselves as right wing, but do not like Nazism, therefore it could not possibly have anything to do with them, in any slight way whatsoever.  No, its The Other who is at fault.

Nobody defines not only his own Discordianism in very tight terms, but everyone elses as well.  If anything, Nobody is the one here telling people they are doing it wrong.

This writer didn't ask to see his work, or indeed anything else you mentioned in your little screed there.

So stop misrepresenting me and my point of view, right now.

This is what I get for editing out the E Prime I originally wrote my comment with. For fucks sake.

Yes Cain, obviously I was speaking about every single author inclusively... you all behave exactly the same way due to the BiP Author Hive Mind you all share... thats obviously what I meant.

Then maybe you should say exactly what you mean, instead of conforming to a certain style to try and make your point.

Or you can continue to mock me for your error, which you'll no doubt prefer to do.

Well, then Cain, I apologize. I should have said "SOME" of the authors, appears to take offense, or get defensive, in my opinion.

Of course, given my general (and oft mocked) opinion on saying 'all' about anything... I wouldn't think it too much of a stretch for you to have assumed I wasn't speaking about EVERY AUTHOR IN EVERY INSTANCE. Sarcasm? Sure, why not. I try to make a comment that I thought was useful and germane, and rather than discussing the useful bits and you pick up on a point you can defensively argue. Why the hell shouldn't I be sarcastic? Because I see the possibility of bars in my prison due to sombunall (after many here have pointed out the potential), I give a go at dropping the wishy washy e-primyness from my comment and the first response is because I apparently missed placing a "some" in the line about the authors.

Trip, I am saying what I think, not what I believe. The sarcasm was in regard to Cains inability (or disinterest) in assuming I was a reasonable human being... or some faxcimile thereof. My comments on the BiP stand as they are, sarcasm aside.

Or was my post still to wishy washy?
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

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I have a feeling Rat consciously decides to turn off his E-Prime mode in cases where there's sure to be very heated opinions of the subject, just so he can turn around and say, "that's why we need SOMBUNALL."


Then again, that's a purely subjective thought, and may be completely untrue.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Triple Zero on June 09, 2009, 04:34:35 PM

- A Text is Discordian if enough people disagree about its Discordianity.

- A Text is Discordian if for ever and always into the future no Discordian will ever disagree with it.

- A Text is Discordian if enough Discordians make fun of other Discordians over their interpretation of the Text.



- A Text is Discordian if P3nT4gR4m, Malachite, Syn, Payne or any other ranking member of the Scottish Empire says it is

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 09, 2009, 04:48:45 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 09, 2009, 04:34:35 PM

- A Text is Discordian if enough people disagree about its Discordianity.

- A Text is Discordian if for ever and always into the future no Discordian will ever disagree with it.

- A Text is Discordian if enough Discordians make fun of other Discordians over their interpretation of the Text.



- A Text is Discordian if P3nT4gR4m, Malachite, Syn, Payne or any other ranking member of the Scottish Empire says it is
TIA




For fuck's sake.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2009, 04:47:49 PM
I have a feeling Rat consciously decides to turn off his E-Prime mode in cases where there's sure to be very heated opinions of the subject, just so he can turn around and say, "that's why we need SOMBUNALL."


Then again, that's a purely subjective thought, and may be completely untrue.

I hope not. I hope you can look at the past week or so of posts (since my Jailbreak post) and see a conspicuous lack of e-prime and subjective qualifiers. I may have missed one or two, but I've been consciously trying to drop that for a bit and see how things go.

Or maybe I subconsciously try to trick people into an e-primless trap. I'll have to watch and see if thats the case.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Triple Zero

That's just what somebunall would say ...
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

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Does the label matter THAT much?  To argue for OR against it?

I think the whole argument might be beside the point or academic or something, but maybe that's me being a bitch, I dunno.

The BIP is fabulous, and that's that.  It does what it needs to do, as does the PD.  eot

Bu🤠ns

Quote from: Jenne on June 09, 2009, 05:02:56 PM
Does the label matter THAT much?  To argue for OR against it?

I think the whole argument might be beside the point or academic or something, but maybe that's me being a bitch, I dunno.

The BIP is fabulous, and that's that.  It does what it needs to do, as does the PD.  eot

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Triple Zero on June 09, 2009, 05:00:48 PM
That's just what somebunall would say ...

I love all the support I get here. Its a great place to try to 'change your cell'.

Oh wait, that was sarcasm, DAMN IT!

Err, thanks guys for the feedback. I'll try to do better next time I post.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

LMNO

All I was saying, in a roundabout way, is that there are times that E-Prime tends to be more useful than others.


Commenting on inflammatory topics where it might appear that you could be speaking for other people when you don't intend to appears to be one of them.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
All I was saying, in a roundabout way, is that there are times that E-Prime tends to be more useful than others.


Commenting on inflammatory topics where it might appear that you could be speaking for other people when you don't intend to appears to be one of them.

I agree with that assessment. In retrospect, apparently I should have used e-Prime, rather than editing it out to conform to the idea that its a bar in my BiP to get rid of. In fact, had you stated that, rather than leaving me with the idea that you thought I consciously try to trap people, I would have agreed with you straight off.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

LMNO


AFK

So we all agree.  The BIP is a Discordian work and nobody is an asshat.  What's next on the agenda? 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO