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Started by Arafelis, June 08, 2009, 06:50:31 AM

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hooplala

#30
June 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
People apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginative people... this may be related.  Just saying.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#31
June 09, 2009, 12:23:08 AM
Quote from: Arafelis on June 08, 2009, 11:28:42 PM
Hmm, alright, I'll try to think of ways to do that.  I might be able to just concoct something in the vein of a thought experiment.  This is the experience that led me to that consideration (that people who are bored with their lives deliberately extend reasons to get angry -- something else that I didn't mention was that during this whole affair, the father didn't pay off his daughter's debt despite the fact it was starting to negatively impact her credit.  If he had done that, even while still pursuing litigation against us, I would have been much more sympathetic to the idea that he was actually upset with the situation and not just angry for the sake of being angry), but yeah, I agree that if there's no way to make it sympathetic, no one's going to want to follow me to it.

Does anyone else have anything from their lives that has led them to consider a similar proposition (or that the proposition makes them think of)?  I might be able to draw elements from several stories to make a more universal case.

Assuming that he actually had the money seems a bit foolish. I own a large house in an expensive neighborhood, but because of various circumstances beyond my control over the course of the past year, I'm broke as fuck.

Also, almost everything about this whole story reeks of hyperbole and overblown drama. The doctor mentioning MS... it's not atypical for neurologists to say they want to rule it out if there are tremors or loss of fine motor control. Sounds like that got blown out of proportion by your girlie, probably for sympathy drama. Also, speaking from a huge amount of experience with medical bills, it takes ages for them to affect your credit because clinics/hospitals first send them to internal collection and THEN to a collection contractor that specializes in medical debt... it can take over a year... and THEN if the contractor can't work something out with you they report you to the credit agencies as delinquent. So there's some bullshit going on there too. Plus if you catch it before they report it you can make payments, even teeny tiny ones, and they don't charge you interest.

I'd say, cut the distracting, whiny, transparently bullshit story about the boo-hoo having to pay for your dog biting someone, and like Thorny said, focus on making a plausible case for the idea that bored people seek out opportunities to be outraged. You could probably even tie it into the media exploiting the desire for outrage etc. etc. it's been done but who knows, maybe you can do it in a way that is interesting and unique.

At least it's a start.
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Arafelis

#32
June 09, 2009, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: HooplaPeople apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginative people... this may be related.  Just saying.

I think that plays into the search for fulfillment, and it's referenced on the second-to-last page of the BIP as well.  I'm making crap money right now, but I'm juggling several projects.  Whether or not I even finish most of them is immaterial (to how fulfilled I feel doing them) -- in the doing, they offer a lot to learn and to stretch around.  If my context for "things I could do" stopped after work, sex, recreational substances, and entertainment products, I feel like I'd get bored of any individual thing a lot faster.

Related note: Javascript is a bastard child of the pure autochthonian entity that is C.
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Thurnez Isa

#33
June 09, 2009, 12:30:25 AM
even if it's been done before a lot of the stuff written here isn't written for here if you know what I mean...
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Triple Zero

#34
June 09, 2009, 01:03:45 AM
Quote from: Arafelis on June 09, 2009, 12:30:14 AM
Related note: Javascript is a bastard child of the pure autochthonian entity that is C.

I have no idea why you think this is related to the current topic, but speaking as someone that makes their living by coding Javascript (the proper cross-browser standards-compliant unobtrusive accessible and degrading-gracefully kind), I really can't let an uninformed remark like this pass without comment. Javascript, also known as ECMAscript shares a few syntax elements (such as curly braces and a small number of keywords) with C, but otherwise it's quite radically different in pretty much every aspect.
(you didnt state this, but FYI it's also not based on Java. the naming was a marketing decision, and the previously named syntax elements were chosen for superficial similarity with Java, however if you want to compare the language with anything, it's more like SmallTalk, Lisp or Ruby)



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#35
June 09, 2009, 05:34:30 AM
Interesting timing on this thread.   :lulz:
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#36
June 09, 2009, 05:35:30 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
People apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginative people... this may be related.  Just saying.

Bollocks.  If dumb people got bored more easily than intelligent ones, the TV networks would be out of fucking business.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Roaring Biscuit!

#37
June 09, 2009, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2009, 05:35:30 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
People apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginative people... this may be related.  Just saying.

Bollocks.  If dumb people got bored more easily than intelligent ones, the TV networks would be out of fucking business.

what do you think adverts are for?  to give dumb bored people something new to concentrate on every 10 minutes.  Its a win:win situation for TV networks.

x

Cain

#38
June 09, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
You think adverts are honestly that interesting?  Lets give people some credit here, they're not magpies.

The problem is either apathy or boredom.  They either don't get bored easily enough, and settle for what they can get easily, or else they are too apathetic to do anything about their boredom.  Its a mix of the two, IMO.

hooplala

#39
June 09, 2009, 01:17:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 09, 2009, 05:35:30 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
People apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginative people... this may be related.  Just saying.

Bollocks.  If dumb people got bored more easily than intelligent ones, the TV networks would be out of fucking business.

I'm going by my own mind here, I tend to not get bored easily as I almost always have something to think about.  And I think you might have mis-read what I said in my post... I said unimaginative, not unintelligent.  There's a difference.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Jenne

#40
June 09, 2009, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on June 09, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
People apt to get bored easily are often (but not always) fairly unimaginativeLAZY people... this may be related.  Just saying.

That's been my own experience.

hooplala

#41
June 09, 2009, 03:37:37 PM
Oh I don't know... I'm pretty much the most slothful person I know.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Cain

#42
June 09, 2009, 03:39:40 PM
Mentally lazy then?

That links in quite closely with uminaginative and apathetic, too.

hooplala

#43
June 09, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Yeah that works.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Jenne

#44
June 09, 2009, 04:30:47 PM
Yeah, I meant mentally lazy.  The one leads to the other, anyhow.
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