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Rev Roger Heresy #4: Rejecting Malaclypse the Younger.

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, June 01, 2004, 07:53:50 AM

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chaosgraves:agentoferis

Quote from: kmandibles23. Lean, with a saucy rhetorical repertoire.
42. Or until someone loses an eye?
216. And the Goddess spoke thusly: "Number your sentences, and surely thou will find DOOM."
333. There should be a band name topic.
3125. Hi!
32! i'll take two, one for me and one for my friends date.
24! it's all fun and games till someone gets soap in the hole.
612! "Not that you won't find DOOM anyway."
333! there should be a band name topic.
5213! NO!
Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.

kmandibles

Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferis
Quote from: kmandibles23. Lean, with a saucy rhetorical repertoire.
42. Or until someone loses an eye?
216. And the Goddess spoke thusly: "Number your sentences, and surely thou will find DOOM."
333. There should be a band name topic.
3125. Hi!
32! i'll take two, one for me and one for my friends date.
24! it's all fun and games till someone gets soap in the hole.
612! "Not that you won't find DOOM anyway."
333! there should be a band name topic.
5213! NO!

7. "A hollow voice says, FOOL."
8. Is Great.
Hello creature. How are you today?

Fucking capital U's! Treasonous bastards!

chaosgraves:agentoferis

893w5v69w384698! the western front is lopsided and liable to crash.
743tv093245692y3! I'm not at the moment worried about the future.
40395-ub43095pq9! there should be a band name topic.
Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.

Bella

-609684745 There is/was a band name topic somewhere.
just like in a dream
you'll open your mouth to scream
and you won't make a sound

you can't believe your eyes
you can't believe your ears
you can't believe your friends
you can't believe you're here

Horab Fibslager

~3.14^23253200100: you have been protected from the terrible secret of space. - the pusher robot.
Hell is other people.

chaosgraves:agentoferis

Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisAll hail the pusher robot.

Gawd DAMN the pusher robot...

Rev Roger,
Is showing his age with that Steppenwolf quote.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

sakredchao

couldn't make it all the way through...  but had to say this before i left..  if you got a problem, you got it.

do what thou wilt.

kim (reading the principia)
consistancy is the blah blah-blin of blah blah blah

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: sakredchaocouldn't make it all the way through...  

Everyone's a critic. :D
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Trollax

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisAll hail the pusher robot.

Gawd DAMN the pusher robot...

Rev Roger,
Is showing his age with that Steppenwolf quote.

Rog, The band or the book?

Trollax, Only asks a dumb question because he likes to be sure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: St. Trollax, ODD
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: chaosgraves:agentoferisAll hail the pusher robot.

Gawd DAMN the pusher robot...

Rev Roger,
Is showing his age with that Steppenwolf quote.

Rog, The band or the book?

Trollax, Only asks a dumb question because he likes to be sure.

The band.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

chaosgraves:agentoferis

Constitution?!?!? Isn't that a D&D stat.

Echidnosaur

Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerThe one good idea, of course, being that you should think for yourself.

Sirs,

I apologize for dipping my naive fly in your proverbial teapot (or however the phrases go).  I am new around here (if you couldn't tell by the number of posts I've made), and somewhat unfamiliar with the present state of Discordian philosophy and theology.

Anyway -- I read the Most Reverend Roger's initial rant, and agreed wholeheartedly with the first half (regarding the PD being crap).  I was a bit perturbed by the second half (about Eris encouraging destruction and discord), but that is neither hither nor thither.

What disturbed me particularly -- and stop me if this has been discussed already, as I haven't read every thread on these forums -- was his comment about the one good idea in the book being "think for yourself".  I may be the only person who feels this way, but I didn't think that this was a thesis of the book at all.

I thought that the entire thesis of the book might be summed up thusly:  Chaos is the lifeblood of the universe.  We are surrounded by weird, non-sensical things like male nipples, and duck-billed platypuses, and everywhere continuous but nowhere differentiable functions.  None of it makes any sense, stupid crap happens to us every day, and if there's anybody out there running this place, then She must obviously be off of Her rocker.

So in the end, you have to learn to observe the exquisite beauty with which the universe, in spite of its total lack of conscious guidance, manages to maliciously and repeatedly snap your bike chain at the same time as your car is in the shop.  The Discordian will fix his chain and car (we have to eat -- we are, after all, Discordians, not breatharians), just like a (if you will) Greyface would.  The difference is that the Discordian is capable of being amused by the awful things that happen to him, and is capable of being more amused and impressed the more awful they are.  He does not see chaos as evil and attempt to tame it.

A logical result of this philosophy, of course, is that you can think for yourself.  Can.  You don't have to.  The PD makes that point pretty explicitly at times.  But you can.  And if you feel the need to stick gum in coin slots, you can do that too.  Nothing in Discordianism will stop you, particularly if doing such things tickles you.

And since the entire point of the book is that you need to be capable of being amused by the universe, of course the PD is total crap.  It has to be.  Once you grok the full depth of its nonsense, and realize the genius of its sheer idiocy, you are ready to look at the real world through Discordian eyes -- and frankly, the real world is far more nonsensical and idiotic than the book itself.  Not to mention infinitely more complex.

I suspect that the religion -- if you wish to call it that -- attracts weirdos and free thinkers because firstly they are looking for validation of their uniqueness, and secondly they are simply more likely to fall into the Discordian point of view.  Surrounded by other free thinkers, we tend to assume that somehow Discordian means Free Thinker, and Greyface means Sheep; in fact, the only difference is whether you would laugh or cry if a meteor were to suddenly come crashing down through your car's engine.

So am I totally off-base with this viewpoint?  Am I unique in believing that the PD nowhere encourages free thinking over following the crowds, and that it merely encourages a particular view of the universe?
~fin~

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Echidnosaur
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerThe one good idea, of course, being that you should think for yourself.

So am I totally off-base with this viewpoint?  Am I unique in believing that the PD nowhere encourages free thinking over following the crowds, and that it merely encourages a particular view of the universe?


Depends if you take it at face value.

BTW:  Good podt, but you lost points for using the word "Grok".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

sakredchao

consistancy is the blah blah-blin of blah blah blah