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Started by Rococo Modem Basilisk, June 17, 2009, 04:20:50 AM

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Bu🤠ns

You're not thinking like a business.  The ACTUAL and FINAL intent is making money, yes...but selling a product is too finalized.  You need to promote customer loyalty so you can keep going.  You obviously wouldn't be in business if you weren't interested in making money.  So the 'problem' is not how to make money (that's a given..people buy your shit),  but how to stay IN business.

That's where all the commercials and logos and shit come in to play.

It's about developing a relationship through familiarity and repetition. 

Rococo Modem Basilisk

I should note that the distinctions in magic terminology are different from the ones in marketing terminology, and that this will fundamentally change behavior. People often tend to break stuff down the lines of the things that they consider different.

But, we are arguing how best to phrase the goal of a commercial in magic terms, which is something that I, at least, would rather leave to the AoM crew. My point was mainly that a sigil can still work without the "forget what it's about" factor.


I am not "full of hate" as if I were some passive container. I am a generator of hate, and my rage is a renewable resource, like sunshine.

Bu🤠ns

That's fine, what i'm saying is that a commercial is not an example of that.  The Sigil itself isn't forgotten, but meaning (like Fear in the insurance ads) is what's hidden.

rygD

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 12, 2009, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: Enki v. 2.0 on November 12, 2009, 04:48:36 PM


Sigils have intent.

Sigils have stupid squiggly lines that don't mean anything.

Sort of like when I try to write using cursive.

Some sigils are musick.  Or film.  Or comics (blame Cram, as I just looked into The Invisibles).
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Right, "forget" for the purpose of the ritual the meaning of the Symbol but remember the Symbol (already associated). So a commercial can have boobs and butts and beer and actually be about sunscreen... which you only connect to with the flash of the sigil in the end.

Or... there are lots of ways to play with third circuit semantics and they aren't all using the exact same methods ;-)
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Rococo Modem Basilisk

Quote from: BAI on November 13, 2009, 06:49:18 AM
Advertising is SIGULS!

No wonder I'm always fapping to the superbowl beer adverts then.

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I am not "full of hate" as if I were some passive container. I am a generator of hate, and my rage is a renewable resource, like sunshine.

Faust

Whenever I want to really freak out some mundanes I use my arcane powers and cast my seagulls at them.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

LMNO


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 13, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
Whenever I want to really freak out some mundanes I use my arcane powers and cast my seagulls at them.

:lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Iason Ouabache

You cannot fathom the immensity of the fuck i do not give.
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Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 13, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
Whenever I want to really freak out some mundanes I use my arcane powers and cast my seagulls at them.

Well, I like seagulls.
P E R   A S P E R A   A D   A S T R A

rygD

They remind me of Utvær.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

Lies

#222
HEY GUYS I HEARD OF THIS AWESOME CHAOS MAGIC THING CALLED "THE SECRET" WHERE YOU JUST "THINK" REALLY FUCKING HARD ABOUT SHIT AND THEN YOU GET IT, NO SIGILS NEEDED IT'S LIKE THE FAST TRACK VERSION.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Faust

Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on November 13, 2009, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: ☂Faust☂ on November 13, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
Whenever I want to really freak out some mundanes I use my arcane powers and cast my seagulls at them.

Well, I like seagulls.
I can "cast" them at high velocity at the back of peoples heads, they generally don't like it.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Cramulus

Back in college, I met this guy "used to be" into chaos magic. He was a pretty heavy dude. --in the sense that he was always talking about fate and death and the mysteries of the universe and what have you.  Walked around with a staff which he had "sigilized the fuck out of". I asked him if he still did ritual things, and he said no, he was into "Eastern stuff" now.

Like what? I asked

like Taoist chaos magic

What's that mean?

It's effortless, he said sagely. You don't do anything.


    somewhere, a bong sounded