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Started by Cain, June 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM

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Cain

I'm having to rely on a blog run by someone who can translate Italian.

http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/06/italian-government-to-legalise.html

But just read it.

QuoteThe Italian government has just issued a White paper on law and order that gives the go-ahead to private vigilante groups. While the paper states that such groups will have to sign up to a licensing scheme, it's interesting to take a peek at those who are enthusiastically jumping at the opportunity.


Enter the Guardia Nazionale Italiana, whose website is currently recruiting "true Italian Nationalists and Patriots, people who are able to wear their uniform with pride and dignity, and for everything that it represents, are able to serve our land and the Italian people".

You may be excused if it rings familiar: black trousers with yellow band, black hat donning the Imperial Eagle of the Holy Roman Empire, khaki shirt carrying both Italian flag and a certain symbol (a black sun that is popular amongst German neo-nazis), black armband, black tie and black boots.

Yet any allegation that it may echo a certain period in history are dismissed as 'nonsense'."It's a legitimate way of combating crime", says Home Secretary Roberto Maroni. So why the garish outfits?

The answer comes the moment you take a peek at the people behind the vigilantes. Amidst retired carabinieri and assorted military, there he is, the founding member of the far-right Social Movement (MSI-DN, the group that rose from the ashes of the Fascist Party following Mussolini's death in 1945) and leader of the Italian Nationalist Party, both groups possibly to the right of the BNP.

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Cain

They're not even trying to hide it, now.  Resurrecting the Blackshirts is pretty much confirmation that everyone who doubted my belief about Italy sliding into Fascism should STFU forevermore.

The EU doesn't seem interested, of course.  God, at this rate, we'll soon be wishing there was a Soviet Union again, if only to raise International Brigades.

MMIX

'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it George Santayana [1905] William Shirer quoted this as an epigraph in his literary work The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich [1959] - gotta love the irony there then.


Those who don't give a flying fuck about their past indiscretions are condemned to be [Italian fascisti] / [insert extremist groups/s of your choice here]

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Elder Iptuous

that's a helluva thing.
definitely worth watching how that develops.

fomenter

something about this reminds me of "The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles" we should place agents in Italy and create competing secret orders/vigilante for hire groups and get convoluted and complicated conspiracies and cooperative efforts going between them.
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Quote from: fomenter on June 17, 2009, 09:53:22 PM
something about this reminds me of "The Historical Illuminatus Chronicles" we should place agents in Italy and create competing secret orders/vigilante for hire groups and get convoluted and complicated conspiracies and cooperative efforts going between them.

I was going to suggest that, but I don't know where we'd get the expendable manpower.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cain on June 17, 2009, 08:04:41 PM
I'm having to rely on a blog run by someone who can translate Italian.

http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/06/italian-government-to-legalise.html

But just read it.

QuoteThe Italian government has just issued a White paper on law and order that gives the go-ahead to private vigilante groups. While the paper states that such groups will have to sign up to a licensing scheme, it's interesting to take a peek at those who are enthusiastically jumping at the opportunity.


Enter the Guardia Nazionale Italiana, whose website is currently recruiting "true Italian Nationalists and Patriots, people who are able to wear their uniform with pride and dignity, and for everything that it represents, are able to serve our land and the Italian people".

You may be excused if it rings familiar: black trousers with yellow band, black hat donning the Imperial Eagle of the Holy Roman Empire, khaki shirt carrying both Italian flag and a certain symbol (a black sun that is popular amongst German neo-nazis), black armband, black tie and black boots.

Yet any allegation that it may echo a certain period in history are dismissed as 'nonsense'."It's a legitimate way of combating crime", says Home Secretary Roberto Maroni. So why the garish outfits?

The answer comes the moment you take a peek at the people behind the vigilantes. Amidst retired carabinieri and assorted military, there he is, the founding member of the far-right Social Movement (MSI-DN, the group that rose from the ashes of the Fascist Party following Mussolini's death in 1945) and leader of the Italian Nationalist Party, both groups possibly to the right of the BNP.

Figures.   Wasn't he a member of P2?
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 18, 2009, 02:02:52 AM
Figures.   Wasn't he a member of P2?

Yup.  Another little factoid that seems to escape everyone's attention. 

Naturally, he claims he had no idea about the Lodge's political activities. No idea at all.  Completely oblivious.

MMIX

"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently" David Graeber

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

Cain

More Italian fun:

http://www.bergamonews.it/provincia/articolo.php?id=14521
http://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/Cronaca/85829_capriate_kebab/

OK, I know most people don't read Italian, but those are the original links, so you can run them through Google Translate or whatever.

Right, anyway, this is what is happening now.  A council ordinance tabled by the Northern League bans all 'ethnic' shops and businesses from Capriate town centre. Most stunning is the motivation offered by the Chair of Trade and Safety at the local council: "This is not a racist decision. The town centre is short of parking space and those businesses would worsen traffic congestion".

The ban is a direct consequence of last June's ruling by the Lombard Regional Assembly (also governed by Berlusconi's coalition) which granted local councils power to shut down businesses that are deemed "incompatible" with the "local context".

"We couldn't just sit down in front of the invasion of kebab shops, internet cafes and Chinese restaurants that are sucking the identity out of our town centres", explained Northern League Assembly Members Daniele Belotti and Giouse' Frosio.