WingNutDaily's Idiotic Article of the Day

[Cain]

Also there is a proven way to get information out of a terrorist - subvert his belief that America is made up of Islam hating Crusaders whose "humanitarian" and democratic beliefs are a cover for a brutal policy of imperialism and murder.

Funnily enough, torturing them only seems to confirm this belief they have about America.  And treating them as a (severely, to say the least) misguided person with legitimate greivances and concerns tends to throw them off balance.

Terrorism is a rational, communicative strategy.  Open the channel and treat the concerns seriously, with intent to be an honest actor, and you'd be surprised how many start offering up information of use.

[LMNO]

Being humane to terrorists means THEY WIN!

[Captain Utopia]

Also there is a proven way to get information out of a terrorist - subvert his belief that America is made up of Islam hating Crusaders whose "humanitarian" and democratic beliefs are a cover for a brutal policy of imperialism and murder.

Funnily enough, torturing them only seems to confirm this belief they have about America.  And treating them as a (severely, to say the least) misguided person with legitimate greivances and concerns tends to throw them off balance.

Terrorism is a rational, communicative strategy.  Open the channel and treat the concerns seriously, with intent to be an honest actor, and you'd be surprised how many start offering up information of use.

Okay - but how many years before this becomes common knowledge to the point that when someone even suggests the thumb-screws approach, they are immediately dismissed as a moron?

[LMNO]

Sooner rather than later, I hope.

The great thing about psychological interrogation is that even when you know they're using it, it's incredibly hard to resist.

Cross reference with the "domesticating humans is easier than dogs" thread drift in the Scienceism and Techmology subforum.

[Jenne]

Oh Pat Boone, stfu.  Jesus.

That guy came and performed for us while I was in h.s.  He was an ass then (he PRAYED with us), he's a washed-up has-been ass now.

[Cain]

Also there is a proven way to get information out of a terrorist - subvert his belief that America is made up of Islam hating Crusaders whose "humanitarian" and democratic beliefs are a cover for a brutal policy of imperialism and murder.

Funnily enough, torturing them only seems to confirm this belief they have about America.  And treating them as a (severely, to say the least) misguided person with legitimate greivances and concerns tends to throw them off balance.

Terrorism is a rational, communicative strategy.  Open the channel and treat the concerns seriously, with intent to be an honest actor, and you'd be surprised how many start offering up information of use.

Okay - but how many years before this becomes common knowledge to the point that when someone even suggests the thumb-screws approach, they are immediately dismissed as a moron?

Its been common knowledge for decades.

If you look back to WWII, the procedure for interrogating PoWs, German spies and other people working for the Axis powers is exactly as I have described.  Treat them in a respectful manner, win their confidence, subvert their expectations and they will spill the beans.

Doesn't work on everyone.  Not the most fanatical, or those who know they've been caught in actions for which there is no going back.  But among the vast majority, it yields results, and has done for 70+ years now.

[Iason Ouabache]

Obama wants to kill your grandma!!!



http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105525

"The health care bill that Obama proposes has this theme at its core and has in its crosshairs the Baby Boomer engine that is pulling the derailed economy as it takes its final lap toward retirement. In less than two years, Baby Boomers will begin retiring in multitudes, expecting to reclaim the hard earned money they have been paying into Social Security. But this Health Care Bill, HR3200, has other plans for them," she wrote.

"Those 65 and older will be required to undergo mandatory 'end of life' counseling to determine if they are worthy to continue to not only live, but take much needed resources from those who are younger and more worthy to receive them. Counselors will be trained to discuss how to end life sooner, how to decline nutrition and hydration, how to go into hospice, etc.," she said.

"This will not be done without coercion. For those who have amassed assets enough to take care of themselves in their old age will have these assets confiscated in the name of fiscal responsibility, because by this time, every citizen will be entered into a national database under the guise of improved efficiency. This database will be run by a type of 'star chamber,' appointed by the president, that will determine whether or not you deserve the much needed operation your personal doctor thinks you need," she said.

Irony: GOP wants MANDATORY counseling for pregnant girls but against VOLUNTARY counseling for aging seniors

[Corvidia]

 

[Bruno]

Obama wants to kill your grandma!!!



http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105525

"The health care bill that Obama proposes has this theme at its core and has in its crosshairs the Baby Boomer engine that is pulling the derailed economy as it takes its final lap toward retirement. In less than two years, Baby Boomers will begin retiring in multitudes, expecting to reclaim the hard earned money they have been paying into Social Security. But this Health Care Bill, HR3200, has other plans for them," she wrote.

"Those 65 and older will be required to undergo mandatory 'end of life' counseling to determine if they are worthy to continue to not only live, but take much needed resources from those who are younger and more worthy to receive them. Counselors will be trained to discuss how to end life sooner, how to decline nutrition and hydration, how to go into hospice, etc.," she said.

"This will not be done without coercion. For those who have amassed assets enough to take care of themselves in their old age will have these assets confiscated in the name of fiscal responsibility, because by this time, every citizen will be entered into a national database under the guise of improved efficiency. This database will be run by a type of 'star chamber,' appointed by the president, that will determine whether or not you deserve the much needed operation your personal doctor thinks you need," she said.

Irony: GOP wants MANDATORY counseling for pregnant girls but against VOLUNTARY counseling for aging seniors

Goddammit.

I went to church with my parents Sunday, and they had a guest preacher that said basically the same thing.

FYI: It's because of abortion.

Apparently, we don't have enough people now to support the social security system because we murdered them all in the womb.

[Iason Ouabache]

Christians opposed to providing health care for the poor and sick. I would comment on how ironic it is but I've come to expect this kind of thing now.

[Jenne]

It's the ourobouros of the Religious Reich.

[Thurnez Isa]

not an article but it's great
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After homeschooling our two eldest children, people at our church told us that we should send them to a "Christian" college so that they could engage further in their faith.

Well... our first sign should have been that the college was not very homeschool friendly but it was one of the best Christian liberal arts colleges in the country, and our kids were excited to go, so away we went!

Folks, we are now reaping the rewards of that. Our eldest son got placed with an openly gay roommate who introduced him to the dark side. This led him to come out himself and to walk away from his faith upon graduation.

We began to notice troubling signs in our daughter as well. We have always held and taught our children very traditional Christian beliefs, including that a woman should be a keeper at home with her children. Well, in one of her classes some of the girls were making fun of her because she wants to be a housewife! And to make matters worse, her teacher sided with the girls by saying that a woman should have a career first before marriage and that to not "follow your dreams" (by this he obviously meant working 9-5) was stupid. My daughter was in tears when she talked to me on the phone that night!

Luckily, there is hope for my daughter she is going into her sophomore year next year and she will not be returning. I don't know what to do and I feel so betrayed. My husband and I are at our wits end, when we attended college, the fact that it was "Christian" meant something!

We have lately held family talks where I feel that it is time that we sent our daughter to a fundamentalist school. I feel like they are slightly legalistic in a few respects, but I have met many graduates of these schools who clearly love the Lord and who do not struggle with such matters as modesty or manners because it was drilled into them. PLUS all the female graduates of these colleges are happily married with children and they teach respect for the god-ordained role of women and they celebrate it and expect all their female students to live by it (which is something my daughter's roommate needed, poor girl didn't know how to do her own laundry or cook and was always struggling with modesty!).

I am sorry for the rant. But like I said before, I feel so betrayed that a "Christian" organization would so blantantly violate basic Christian beliefs. It boggles my mind!

[Kai]

that hurts to read, especially the bit about the gay son. I feel for him.

Fuck these sort of people.

[Jenne]

"struggling with modesty"...?  WTF does that mean?  She was a compulsive flasher?

[Cain]

She had flashes of pride and self-belief, likely.

Modest = don't speak back to your betters.