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What hope for humanity given the experience of the past 10,000 years?

Started by Honey, July 23, 2009, 12:24:55 PM

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What hope for humanity?

Well, in technological terms, we've advanced amazingly rapidly in a terrifyingly short amount of time compared to our previous history to this point.

In social terms, though we're far (very far) from perfect, we're moving towards a more equal and permissive society. Slowly, but it is happening.

In entertainment terms, I believe we're heading into a period of unprecedented economic strife, which will forcibly shake up the social order, and possibly our entire economic system- I have no idea what the extent is likely to be, but it's an exciting time to be alive, and the possibility is still there- definitely something to hope for.

What hope is there for humanity? Lots! There might be a long way to go, but I still think we've come very far, and I hope we'll keep on going further.  :D
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Hope for humanity to do what?  I think it is very likely that the human existence on this planet will be akin to prior dominant species.  So our inevitable demise as a species is probably more of a question of how and when, and not if.  So then is the question of hope about what we do with that time?  If so, I think the answer is that there will be a lot of repetition from the past however many thousands of years we've been around.  But there will be bright moments, jewels in the rough, for those who choose to look for ways to have a meaningful existence amongst the surrounding turbulence.  It's certainly what I try to do with my scant allotment of time in existence.  And I will wish the same for my daughter and soon-to-be second offspring.  After that, what happens to humanity isn't really much of a concern for me. 
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Quote from: Kai on July 23, 2009, 01:09:07 PM
Boy, I just LOVE fatalism on a Thursday morning.

Well I didn't even realise it is Thursday - so I guess I'm fucked, then  :sad:
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'experience of the past 10,000 years'?
there's no such thing....
i assume you mean, 'our current interpretation of what we think happened for the past 10,000 years'....

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Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

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Personally, I'm an optimist. I like to think that things are getting better overall, even though there are plenty of bits which seem to be going bad. Over the long period of 10,000 years... it seems to me that we are in a lot better shape as a society and as individuals. I think there will always be struggle of some sort, but the struggles we generally face today are less horrid than the ones faced 50 years ago, 100 years ago and after studying lots of history... barring a few small refuges, the general state of the world 1000 years ago was utterly stupefying.

The sacred Chao wobbles from side to side. She wobbles between disorder and order, strife and concord, it drops horrors in our lap, and often... after much wobbling, drops a solution there as well. Considering that we are not much more than shit-flinging monkeys, I have to say we're doing pretty well overall.
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