Daily reminder: not beating your partner is "controversial"

[Cain]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204359/In-week-Harriet-Harman-takes-charge-feminist-initiative.html

Feminist agenda: Under controversial plans, schoolboys will be taught not to beat their partners or any other female

GODDAMN YOU FEMINISTS, YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

[Iason Ouabache]

Reminds me of how the bullying policies in US schools are considered "controversial" because it tells kids to not make fun of homosexuals.  It's weird seeing certain Christian groups suddenly becoming pro-bully.

[Kai]

I've said it before, and I'll say it now: this is all symptoms of a deep seated mysognyny. Antifeminism, homophobia, many many of the aspects of fundamentalist politics, and certainly unequality between the sexes. The western world practically seeths with it.

[meme]11/12ths of men are women haters and 2/3rds of women subconsciously think they deserve it [/meme]

[Captain Utopia]

I've said it before, and I'll say it now: this is all symptoms of a deep seated mysognyny. Antifeminism, homophobia, many many of the aspects of fundamentalist politics, and certainly unequality between the sexes. The western world practically seeths with it.

[meme]11/12ths of men are women haters and 2/3rds of women subconsciously think they deserve it [/meme]

I don't disagree with you. One thing I don't like about that meme though is that it doesn't provide an out, and seems more likely to trap people into that mindset. Maybe add in a bit about in the study, for the age-group forty and above, 11/12ths of men are... ?

Older people with established life patterns and attitudes are less likely to be swayed, plus it gives younger people a target to avoid and to be pissed off about. It's hard to go wrong exploiting generational divide.

[Kai]

I've said it before, and I'll say it now: this is all symptoms of a deep seated mysognyny. Antifeminism, homophobia, many many of the aspects of fundamentalist politics, and certainly unequality between the sexes. The western world practically seeths with it.

[meme]11/12ths of men are women haters and 2/3rds of women subconsciously think they deserve it [/meme]

I don't disagree with you. One thing I don't like about that meme though is that it doesn't provide an out, and seems more likely to trap people into that mindset. Maybe add in a bit about in the study, for the age-group forty and above, 11/12ths of men are... ?

Older people with established life patterns and attitudes are less likely to be swayed, plus it gives younger people a target to avoid and to be pissed off about. It's hard to go wrong exploiting generational divide.

The reason you don't get the meme is you weren't here for either the 11/12th incident (Save the Dolphins!) or the 2/3rds incident. It wasn't meant as anything but a 

[LMNO]

Backstory: Both those fractions are from PD.com in-jokes based on idiot threads.

One was "The world would be a better place for the dolphins if 11/12 people died," or something like that.

The other was something to the effect of, "2/3 of rape victims deserved it."

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204359/In-week-Harriet-Harman-takes-charge-feminist-initiative.html

Feminist agenda: Under controversial plans, schoolboys will be taught not to beat their partners or any other female

[Verbal Mike]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

[Captain Utopia]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

It's one I would never support. Any other ideas on how to use it in a positive way?

[Verbal Mike]

Yeah, it's way too negative and cringey.

A positive line would be to reverse it, oppose it, yet acknowledge it, in some way that isn't too wordy. (And no, adding on "but that's totally wrong so stop it" doesn't count. It has to be witty.)

"Stop hating her, and you, stop thinking you deserve his hate!"

...no.

[Cainad (dec.)]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

It's one I would never support. Any other ideas on how to use it in a positive way?

Memebombs are not meant to be good advice, they're meant to provoke a reaction. This one provokes a pretty strong reaction.

[Captain Utopia]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

It's one I would never support. Any other ideas on how to use it in a positive way?

Memebombs are not meant to be good advice, they're meant to provoke a reaction. This one provokes a pretty strong reaction.

Agreed. It's a strong reaction that people are more likely to believe, internalise, and follow. Fuck that.

I'm gonna make a start on the age-divide angle if nothing else shows up.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

It's one I would never support. Any other ideas on how to use it in a positive way?

Memebombs are not meant to be good advice, they're meant to provoke a reaction. This one provokes a pretty strong reaction.

Yes, it does. It works.

A shortened, vaguer, neutered version works too: "You secretly think you deserve it".

[Requia ☣]

Oooh, that actually does work.

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

Though "most men secretly hate women, and most women secretly think they deserve it" is a memebomb with some merit.
Very horrormirth to me tho, specially heavy on the "horror" side of it.

It's one I would never support. Any other ideas on how to use it in a positive way?

Memebombs are not meant to be good advice, they're meant to provoke a reaction. This one provokes a pretty strong reaction.

Agreed. It's a strong reaction that people are more likely to believe, internalise, and follow. Fuck that.

I'm gonna make a start on the age-divide angle if nothing else shows up.

You have very little faith in humanity, even by PD standards. Most memebombs provoke a strong reaction because they rephrase something that is already assumed; a closet misogynist will have a terribly strong reaction to this. But a memebomb will also make the assumed idea shocking, and has just as much of a potential for provoking the opposite reaction as for provoking the literally implied one. It's like stealth sarasm by way of trolling, except that the person being trolled is trolling him/herself.