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Incoherent Ramblings: Right to Life & Eugenics

Started by Rumckle, September 22, 2009, 02:48:22 AM

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Rumckle

I used to be pro-choice, after all it's the woman's body, there seems to be many cases where abortion is permissible, and anyway, fetuses probably aren't even human. But then I read the Pope's argument (actually it was JPII's argument, but I'm assuming Benny 16 agrees with it) regarding the Catholic pro-life stance. That piece made me realise the brilliant potential of the pro-life stance, specifically the Catholic pro-life stance.

The main argument is that fetuses are potential people, and therefore the fetus has a right to life, much the same as any other person. But really, when you consider it, every time a women of child bearing age, isn't either pregnant or fucking, then a potential human is being denied existence. If you consider the possibility of twins or triplets, then several human beings are being denied their right to life. If abortion is murder, this could be considered triple homicide.

On the topic of multiple babies, it seems to me that in order to ensure that the maximum number of people are given their basic right of life, then fertility medication, and perhaps even other fertility treatments, should be mandatory. In fact, to not do so could be considered discrimination against people who are a result of multiple births.

Okay, so far, it may seem like we'll just end up with a hell of a lot of humans, and this 'brilliant potential' I mentioned, amounts to nothing more than overpopulation, and possible extinction of the species. But that is where the second part of the plan comes into play.

Ok, so far I've only examined the role of women in ensuring that people get their right to life, however, as Monty Python put so succinctly, "every sperm is sacred", thus any plan that truly guarantees the right to life for everyone, must include provisions for the male population. To ensure that as little sperm as possible is wasted, I suggest castrating around 95% of the male population.

The great result of this, is not only do we stop the unnecessary production of sperm, we are provided with an excellent opportunity for genetic selection. By picking the 5% with the best possible genes we can help strengthen the human gene pool. Through genetic selection we can create a race that is smarter, and uses resources more efficiently, thus helping us cope with the massive overpopulation problem. A smarter population will allow us to develop better energy and food production, hope us to cure many diseases, and eventually allow us to colonise other planets, thus giving us even more space to grow as a species.

All these measures will not only ensure that everyone is given the right to life they deserve, but it helps us achieve the perfection that God originally intended, and helps to spread the Lord's message all over the world, and even throughout the universe.

FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND THE LORD
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The primary argument isn't that a fetus is a potential person, but that a fetus actually is a person.
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The position of The First Church of the Wrath of Baby Jesus is that a fetus is a fetus until it's out of the house.
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Rumckle

Quote from: GA on September 22, 2009, 02:59:56 AM
The primary argument isn't that a fetus is a potential person, but that a fetus actually is a person.

Well aware of that, but I was in the mood to misconstrue something.
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The Johnny


For a man, everytime you jerkoff, its the death of millions of potential lives... even if you ejaculate into a woman everytime you have sex, there will also be the "loser" sperm that die off that had "potential" to live... so you should jerkoff into a petri dish, and save them up, and do artificial insemination with every single one of them!

Your idea for the best 5% males to be the only ones to reproduce fails at the most basic issue... who decides? and under which criteria? even if you come up with criteria... can you find those males?

Colonize other planets? are you kidding me?

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Rumckle

Quote from: JohNyx on September 22, 2009, 03:33:13 AM
are you kidding me?


Yes, yes I was.

Maybe I was coming off too much like DK or Daruko
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Rumckle

It's not trolling, it's just satire.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

Quote from: Rumckle on September 22, 2009, 02:48:22 AM
Okay, so far, it may seem like we'll just end up with a hell of a lot of humans, and this 'brilliant potential' I mentioned, amounts to nothing more than overpopulation, and possible extinction of the species.

Actually, it amounts to more righteousness in the world.  Uh, because of all the Catholics.

I'm not sure how "more altar boys to molest" translates into righteousness, but that is why I am not the (Catholic) Pope.

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Reginald Ret

the narrowing of the genepool by effectively killing 95% of the males would have negative effects far greater than the potential benefits of increased intelligence.
especially since gene-related intelligence is nearly impossible to effectively select for.


also,
This is great for trolling pro-lifers and choicers alike.
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Quote from: Regret on September 29, 2009, 11:29:33 PM
the narrowing of the genepool by effectively killing 95% of the males would have negative effects far greater than the potential benefits of increased intelligence.
especially since gene-related intelligence is nearly impossible to effectively select for.


also,
This is great for trolling pro-lifers and choicers alike.

Looking for a use other than trolling.  Selecting for anything can't have good results.  Pressure towards a more feral state might favor intelligence and strength and other raw talents, but society couldn't have as many members, as closely packed.

Not that society's anywhere near it's appropriate size or properties.