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Moral Relativity VS. An Absolute Moral System

Started by Dimocritus, September 22, 2009, 04:43:39 PM

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Cain

#120
September 23, 2009, 03:37:27 PM
Why would a workable moral system unify people?  There are already several workable moral systems, and people knowingly and willingly break the rules of them daily.  Even if you got everyone to agree on one particular system, that would no doubt continue.

The Good Reverend Roger

#121
September 23, 2009, 05:52:39 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 23, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2009, 09:07:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 22, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2009, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 22, 2009, 08:43:01 PM
I'm pretty sure everyone's happier when I'm LOCKED IN A Trunk.

Fixed.

:alevil:

Nonsense.  My actions may seem evil, but that is because I work in mysterious ways.  For example, if Kim Kardashian was also in the trunk, would you then consider it an undesirable thing?  She's not, though.  I think I left some large rats in there.  Again, mysterious ways.

Do the rats have round, firm asses?


Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2009, 10:09:40 PM
Better to be a biped, satisfied than either of them.

A pig may walk on the meadow
A pig may swim in the sea
A pig may do whatever it likes
But no pig walks on me.

What about Kim Kardashian?

Hell, yes.  In 9" heels with broken glass glued to the soles.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

MMIX

#122
September 23, 2009, 07:06:24 PM



hmmmm, whatever floats your boat I guess . . .
"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently" David Graeber

The Good Reverend Roger

#123
September 23, 2009, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: MMIX on September 23, 2009, 07:06:24 PM



hmmmm, whatever floats your boat I guess . . .

Hell, yeah.  It would be better if her face really looked like that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

MMIX

#124
September 23, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
 yep, better than a paper bag . . .  :wink:
"The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently" David Graeber

The Good Reverend Roger

#125
September 23, 2009, 07:40:05 PM
Quote from: MMIX on September 23, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
yep, better than a paper bag . . .  :wink:

What's wrong with Kim Kardashian's face?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#126
September 23, 2009, 08:13:13 PM
I'm sorry, I was looking about two to three feet lower than her face, and from the back.

What was that you were saying?

The Good Reverend Roger

#127
September 23, 2009, 09:15:21 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 23, 2009, 08:13:13 PM
I'm sorry, I was looking about two to three feet lower than her face, and from the back.

What was that you were saying?

Apparently, there is an element at PD that thinks she's ugly.

Two people so far.  MMIX and Rat.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#128
September 23, 2009, 09:33:05 PM
Ugly?  Really?  Looks fine to me. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

#129
September 23, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#130
September 23, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
Is hitting Kim Kardashian a categorical imperative, though?

The Good Reverend Roger

#131
September 23, 2009, 09:45:10 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
Is hitting Kim Kardashian a categorical imperative, though?

Yes.  Or the short sister.  The tall one looks like some kind of alien.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

#132
September 23, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
But is hitting Kim Karsashian the best possible outcome in all possible worlds?

The Good Reverend Roger

#133
September 23, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2009, 10:27:32 PM
But is hitting Kim Karsashian the best possible outcome in all possible worlds?

Um, no.  Using a time machine to kidnap Raquel Welch from 1968 for wild monkey sex holds that title.

But, given no time machine, then yeah.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Dimocritus

#134
September 24, 2009, 02:21:36 AM
Quote from: Cain on September 23, 2009, 03:37:27 PM
Why would a workable moral system unify people? 

Shouldn't a moral system work for the benefit of more than one social construct (for more than just your social construct)?

If yes, than it should work towards a unification of peoples, as rifts between cultures retard the spread of ideas. No large achievements are made by individuals, they're accomplished by collaboration and the exchange of ideas between different societies. No international space station without collaboration. None of the  wonders of the world (on the other hand, no atomic bomb) etc.. I feel a moral system should be used to benefit even those beyond yourself or your society, because it is that that will reap the most benefit for humanity as a whole.

If no, then what is the point of even trying to solve international and cross cultural issues? Why not just stay in bed, or do whatever it is that makes you happy?   

I agree, however, in the end that complete RM can't sustain itself (based on the resulting impediment in progress), a solid AM is not flexible enough to meet the requirements of the complex situations it's meant to judge in simple terms, and any combination of the two would, in the end, eat itself.

What is there that's left?
Episkopos of GABCab ~ "caecus plumbum caecus"
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