#teenageproblems

[BadBeast]

There's only one Band still around that still sound "Indy". You can argue semantics all day, so I'm afraid it's Carter USM, or GTFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE4KTkN2L44&feature=related

[East Coast Hustle]

Must be a cultural thing. Just about everyone I know associates some specific traits to the term "indie music" and none of those traits have anything to do with whether or not they are signed to a label.

LMNO, I'd just call you guys "rock 'n' fucking roll", and the hell with whatever other posewads have misappropriated the term.

[East Coast Hustle]

Y'know, I think I've maybe recognized the cause of the "hipster/indie" disconnect that seems to exist here.

For whatever reason, it seems that a vital part of the hipster/indie subculture is that you must insist that the subculture does not exist.

[LMNO]

Must be a cultural thing. Just about everyone I know associates some specific traits to the term "indie music" and none of those traits have anything to do with whether or not they are signed to a label.

LMNO, I'd just call you guys "rock 'n' fucking roll", and the hell with whatever other posewads have misappropriated the term.

Agreed.  In my mind, "indie" is what happened when "college rock" started selling records.  Or when DIY¹ became HSEDIFY².


And I think I'll take your suggestion, followed up with "Good Fun in Poor Taste".



¹Do It Yourself
²Have Someone Else Do It For You

[P3nT4gR4m]

I always took "indie" to mean independent label, ie not one of the big major labels which nowadays afaik amounts to Sony who, let's face it probably own most of the small independent labels now too. So, yeah, means fuck all but it was typified by manchester accents and twangy rickenbacker guitars for a while, until all those acts signed to majors and became "britpop"

[AFK]

I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene. 

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.   

[Luna]

Me, I never cared much what label was slapped on the music, either I like it, or I don't.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I was gonna say, I think bands like Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, etc., etc,. were considered indie bands when they first hit the scene.  

But basically in the 90s I think the "indie" term became interchangeable with "alternative", and for the particularly lazy music journalists, "grunge".

I'd say whatever meaning it originally was destroyed a long time ago.  

What

dude, no. I'm sure stupid people use it wrong all the time, but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here, there's a thriving indie scene on Alberta, Mississippi and Killingsworth, people are trying to make it work. It's like the whole SRA thing. I'm sure your average teeny-bopper doesn't know what "independent" means, but most adults are fully aware.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

  Why don't you call Mississippi Studios and ask them what "indie" means.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here,

What?  Why?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

but it's a pretty big thing to identify yourself as unrepresented out here,

What?  Why?

Because there's a lot of support in terms of studios and venues who prefer to work primarily with unsigned musicians, and a lot of musicians, like Mark Growden and Ghostwriter, who do their own promotion and manage to make a living at it.

It's like the self-representing artist movement... people like me, who don't go through a distributor or promoter to sell our work, but rather sell it directly.

[hooplala]

So, it's like wholesale music?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I get solicited by reps all the time, but I would have to make huge quantities of identical items according to the demands of whatever accounts they were working with, and while I would have a steady income and my work would be in chichi boutiques and catalogs, I would slowly, grindingly lose my mind and my soul.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So, it's like wholesale music?

It's like the difference between buying a painting in a gallery... the gallery is representing the artist and gets a cut... and buying it directly from the artist.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

So, it's like wholesale music?

It's like the difference between buying a painting in a gallery... the gallery is representing the artist and gets a cut... and buying it directly from the artist.

Probably never get rich, but no 1st contract ass-raping, either.  I can see that.