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Unlimited "Glenn Beck is a nutter" thread

Started by Cain, September 26, 2009, 04:33:44 PM

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LMNO

In my opinion, one of the worst things about Glenn Beck is that he makes Lou Dobbs look rational.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: LMNO on December 01, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
In my opinion, one of the worst things about Glenn Beck is that he makes Lou Dobbs look rational.

Plus, Lou Dobbs doesn't cry on air on occasion...

LMNO

Yes, but Lou Dobbs is just as much as a fuckhead.  Almost.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: LMNO on December 01, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
Yes, but Lou Dobbs is just as much as a fuckhead.  Almost.

seriously?
i've never really heard what lou dobbs has said except when he says something controversial and i see a blurb about it in the news, but i thought he maintained some air of dignity in his presentation (if not his message...)
that caters to an entirely different crowd than Beck who will scream at guests, use visual stunt gags, incorporates ridiculous imagery....  more of a political 'shock jock' type pundit.
did i miss the really good stuff Dobbs has put out?
what are his best gems?

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Iptuous on December 01, 2009, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 01, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
Yes, but Lou Dobbs is just as much as a fuckhead.  Almost.

seriously?
i've never really heard what lou dobbs has said except when he says something controversial and i see a blurb about it in the news, but i thought he maintained some air of dignity in his presentation (if not his message...)
that caters to an entirely different crowd than Beck who will scream at guests, use visual stunt gags, incorporates ridiculous imagery....  more of a political 'shock jock' type pundit.
did i miss the really good stuff Dobbs has put out?
what are his best gems?

While he was on vacation, his assistant filled in for him.  Her last day doing so, she spent debunking the birther shit.

He came back the next day and start jabbering about all the "unanswered questions" concerning Obama's place of birth.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 01, 2009, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on December 01, 2009, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 01, 2009, 03:34:26 PM
Yes, but Lou Dobbs is just as much as a fuckhead.  Almost.

seriously?
i've never really heard what lou dobbs has said except when he says something controversial and i see a blurb about it in the news, but i thought he maintained some air of dignity in his presentation (if not his message...)
that caters to an entirely different crowd than Beck who will scream at guests, use visual stunt gags, incorporates ridiculous imagery....  more of a political 'shock jock' type pundit.
did i miss the really good stuff Dobbs has put out?
what are his best gems?

While he was on vacation, his assistant filled in for him.  Her last day doing so, she spent debunking the birther shit.

He came back the next day and start jabbering about all the "unanswered questions" concerning Obama's place of birth.

meh... so he's a 'birther sympathizer'...  that's nowhere neeeear the level of hanging-by-a-thread nuttery that Beck displays on a regular schedule.
Didn't Dobbs have some pretty outrageous racist comments at some point?

Cain

Didn't Lou Dobbs invite Jared Taylor on a fair few times to discuss immigration without disclosing the fact he is the editor of a White Supremacist magazine, which some might consider a pertinent fact?

LMNO

My point being, Ip, is that Lou Dobbs doesn't act as insane as Glenn Beck, and so his unverified right-wing nuttery is taken as rational discourse.


Cain would know the right phrase for this, but it's basically the practice of shifting the "moderate" position further Right.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on December 01, 2009, 04:03:23 PM
My point being, Ip, is that Lou Dobbs doesn't act as insane as Glenn Beck, and so his unverified right-wing nuttery is taken as rational discourse.


Cain would know the right phrase for this, but it's basically the practice of shifting the "moderate" position further Right.

I think the term is "Being a Good German" (in the 1945 perjorative sense).
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.


Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Cain on December 01, 2009, 04:00:27 PM
Didn't Lou Dobbs invite Jared Taylor on a fair few times to discuss immigration without disclosing the fact he is the editor of a White Supremacist magazine, which some might consider a pertinent fact?

That definitely seems like something a serious journalist would want to disclose...
although Talyor's wiki page says,
QuoteTaylor says he is not a white supremacist, whom he defines as one who wishes to rule over others. He is, if anything, a "yellow supremacist" because he has theorized that Asian people are the most advanced humans (in evolutionary terms), followed by white people and those of African descent.
that he considers himself a 'racialist' is still very germane to the discourse.
(i looked him up because i'd not heard of the guy)

Quote from: Cain on December 01, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
thanks for the link.  that's a good reference to keep in your pocket.
It is my observation that the Overton window is trying to get pushed in several directions and thereby getting wider these days. (a good thing imo)

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Iptuous on December 01, 2009, 05:27:58 PM

thanks for the link.  that's a good reference to keep in your pocket.
It is my observation that the Overton window is trying to get pushed in several directions and thereby getting wider these days. (a good thing imo)


Actually, I think it's getting narrower, and moving to the right.

Even the "liberals" bought into NCLB, the Iraq war, and "enhanced interrogation".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Yeah.  Think about it, Obama is considered a "liberal".

Elder Iptuous


LMNO