Unlimited "Glenn Beck is a nutter" thread

[Earthbound Spirit]

I really wonder what the republicans have to gain by fighting the census.

I don't think that the average republican is against the census....

I agree.

[Suu]

It would happen even if a Republican was in office...IT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING 10 YEARS.

[Doktor Howl]

It would happen even if a Republican was in office...IT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING 10 YEARS.

Yeah, it's kinda mandated by the US constitution.

[Doktor Howl]

I really wonder what the republicans have to gain by fighting the census.

I don't think that the average republican is against the census....

I agree.

I don't.  I have faith that the sheer stupidity of republicans approaches an infinite value.

[Freeky]

It would happen even if a Republican was in office...IT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING 10 YEARS.

Yeah, it's kinda mandated by the US constitution.

But the Constitution is totally unAmerican!

[Doktor Howl]

It would happen even if a Republican was in office...IT HAPPENS EVERY FUCKING 10 YEARS.

Yeah, it's kinda mandated by the US constitution.

But the Constitution is totally unAmerican!

Don't laugh.  I just had some spag on GLP tell me that the general welfare clause is unconstitutional (it's the 1st clause of the 8th section of article I of the US constitution).

Unfortunately, SHR and Evil Twin, two of the mods, noticed the republicans were losing, and deleted the thread.

[Z³]

I really wonder what the republicans have to gain by fighting the census.

I don't think that the average republican is against the census....

I agree.

I don't.  I have faith that the sheer stupidity of republicans approaches an infinite value.

This. They've already kicked the intelligence boulder down the cliff,
Right now they are watching it roll, hoping it gains sufficient momentum
What do they hope to gain?

(edit. maybe It should be the stupidity boulder)

[Cain]

Actually, he IS the ground floor (that's why you didn't notice). I mean come on, saying that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred of white people" is cutting edge racism. He deflects any suspicion of him by accusing everyone else. Genius.

I'm not sure I understand this argument.  Because what you, and others, seem to be saying is that accusing someone of racism when they are clearly not is a form of racism.  Stupid and slanderous for sure, not to mention a little suspect, but not in any way proof of racist sentiment.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Beck has some race issues.  He is, after all, a Mormon conspiracy theorist.  On the other hand, he's equally likely to be cynical enough not to care about race, while blowing various dogwhistles in order to appeal to that sort of viewer.

As it is, I went Googling yesterday, and the closest I could find to racism was that bizarre accusation against Obama, and his hectoring of a Muslim member of Congress to prove "he is not working with our enemies".  The Congressman in question is black, but most black Americans aren't Muslims anyway (if he had been Arab or Iranian, the suspicion of racism might be on better ground....barely).  So he's clearly a sectarian bigot, but we already knew that.

[Elder Iptuous]

I really wonder what the republicans have to gain by fighting the census.

I don't think that the average republican is against the census....

I agree.

I don't.  I have faith that the sheer stupidity of republicans approaches an infinite value.

Perhaps it's a regional thing... 
do all the republicans in your friends and family believe this where you live?
very few of them in my corner of the world do.
only one person that i've talked to has said anything like that.  he mentioned hearing something about 'i heard blah blah blah Acorn blah blah blah'.... after i gave him a blank look and pointed out that he had a little of stupid on his face, he brushed it off, embarrassed, and got back to work.

[Lord Quantum]

Actually, he IS the ground floor (that's why you didn't notice). I mean come on, saying that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred of white people" is cutting edge racism. He deflects any suspicion of him by accusing everyone else. Genius.

I'm not sure I understand this argument.  Because what you, and others, seem to be saying is that accusing someone of racism when they are clearly not is a form of racism.  Stupid and slanderous for sure, not to mention a little suspect, but not in any way proof of racist sentiment.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Beck has some race issues.  He is, after all, a Mormon conspiracy theorist.  On the other hand, he's equally likely to be cynical enough not to care about race, while blowing various dogwhistles in order to appeal to that sort of viewer.

As it is, I went Googling yesterday, and the closest I could find to racism was that bizarre accusation against Obama, and his hectoring of a Muslim member of Congress to prove "he is not working with our enemies".  The Congressman in question is black, but most black Americans aren't Muslims anyway (if he had been Arab or Iranian, the suspicion of racism might be on better ground....barely).  So he's clearly a sectarian bigot, but we already knew that.

My argument is not that Beck must be racist just because he said that, but that it makes more sense for him to be making comments like that out of racism. Especially since things like the Birther movement are clearly rooted in race. Even the healthcare debate has been tainted now that the entire crowd outside of the Capitol was heard shouting "nigger" at a Black democrat on Sunday. So now people are wondering if the crowd was there to protest the bill or the niggers. Granted, none of this really says much about Glenn Beck, but there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to assume that he's vastly different from the other conservative wackos. But then again, I don't watch TV at all, so I've never actually seen Glenn Beck. I get my all news from news magazines, so perhaps someone who's actually seen him action should be making this argument.

[Suu]

GS made a valid observation a few weeks ago when we were watching a program on History Channel about Andrew Jackson, and that is what Republicans USED to be is what most Democrats are now, and the psycho rights were the Whigs. However, Democrats 200 years ago were as socialist as they could be in a time when there wasn't any idea on how that kind of a system would work, so it was really feared and they were often looked down upon. Even Martha Washington is quoted to have said after finding a grease spot on the wall after a dinner party at the presidential house in Philadelphia that it was put there by "a filthy Democrat".

We marveled over the political shift and tried to think of all the crazy shit that that made the changes.

[Jenne]

GS made a valid observation a few weeks ago when we were watching a program on History Channel about Andrew Jackson, and that is what Republicans USED to be is what most Democrats are now, and the psycho rights were the Whigs. However, Democrats 200 years ago were as socialist as they could be in a time when there wasn't any idea on how that kind of a system would work, so it was really feared and they were often looked down upon. Even Martha Washington is quoted to have said after finding a grease spot on the wall after a dinner party at the presidential house in Philadelphia that it was put there by "a filthy Democrat".

We marveled over the political shift and tried to think of all the crazy shit that that made the changes.

That was one of the most interesting discoveries I made in university--was the shift in alignments of the two parties vis a vis their original and their modernday platforms.

[Jenne]

Actually, he IS the ground floor (that's why you didn't notice). I mean come on, saying that Obama has a "deep-seated hatred of white people" is cutting edge racism. He deflects any suspicion of him by accusing everyone else. Genius.

I'm not sure I understand this argument.  Because what you, and others, seem to be saying is that accusing someone of racism when they are clearly not is a form of racism.  Stupid and slanderous for sure, not to mention a little suspect, but not in any way proof of racist sentiment.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Beck has some race issues.  He is, after all, a Mormon conspiracy theorist.  On the other hand, he's equally likely to be cynical enough not to care about race, while blowing various dogwhistles in order to appeal to that sort of viewer.

As it is, I went Googling yesterday, and the closest I could find to racism was that bizarre accusation against Obama, and his hectoring of a Muslim member of Congress to prove "he is not working with our enemies".  The Congressman in question is black, but most black Americans aren't Muslims anyway (if he had been Arab or Iranian, the suspicion of racism might be on better ground....barely).  So he's clearly a sectarian bigot, but we already knew that.

My argument is not that Beck must be racist just because he said that, but that it makes more sense for him to be making comments like that out of racism. Especially since things like the Birther movement are clearly rooted in race. Even the healthcare debate has been tainted now that the entire crowd outside of the Capitol was heard shouting "nigger" at a Black democrat on Sunday. So now people are wondering if the crowd was there to protest the bill or the niggers. Granted, none of this really says much about Glenn Beck, but there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to assume that he's vastly different from the other conservative wackos. But then again, I don't watch TV at all, so I've never actually seen Glenn Beck. I get my all news from news magazines, so perhaps someone who's actually seen him action should be making this argument.

There's no doubt in my mind that Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have a very racist leitmotif in their rhetoric.

[Suu]

GS made a valid observation a few weeks ago when we were watching a program on History Channel about Andrew Jackson, and that is what Republicans USED to be is what most Democrats are now, and the psycho rights were the Whigs. However, Democrats 200 years ago were as socialist as they could be in a time when there wasn't any idea on how that kind of a system would work, so it was really feared and they were often looked down upon. Even Martha Washington is quoted to have said after finding a grease spot on the wall after a dinner party at the presidential house in Philadelphia that it was put there by "a filthy Democrat".

We marveled over the political shift and tried to think of all the crazy shit that that made the changes.

That was one of the most interesting discoveries I made in university--was the shift in alignments of the two parties vis a vis their original and their modernday platforms.

It's actually quite an interesting topic. Modern Dems are original Republicans, and Modern Republicans would have been Whig if not outright loyalists. Original Dems would have been Lenin's best friends.

Also, the terms Republican and Democrat themselves are outdated. The USA is a federal republic, not a democracy. Although our legislative system can be described as representative democratic, the overall snapshot of the country is not one.

[Doktor Howl]

GS made a valid observation a few weeks ago when we were watching a program on History Channel about Andrew Jackson, and that is what Republicans USED to be is what most Democrats are now, and the psycho rights were the Whigs. However, Democrats 200 years ago were as socialist as they could be in a time when there wasn't any idea on how that kind of a system would work, so it was really feared and they were often looked down upon. Even Martha Washington is quoted to have said after finding a grease spot on the wall after a dinner party at the presidential house in Philadelphia that it was put there by "a filthy Democrat".

We marveled over the political shift and tried to think of all the crazy shit that that made the changes.

That was one of the most interesting discoveries I made in university--was the shift in alignments of the two parties vis a vis their original and their modernday platforms.

Just look up Lyndon Johnson's civil rights bill.  Pretty much tells you all you need to know.