the math poll

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Been off the sauce for years ya angry old fart, as for programming, you might want to think about what its fuckin like with noone to talk to except the fuckin monkeys.  You have folks that have had their eyes opened, i have to dig for tid bits of truth and glean what I can from websites like this while dealing with your jack assery.  But thanks for sharing.

What, did you think we were just gonna TELL you things?  Fuck no, that takes all the fun out of being a Holy Man.  Those parables aren't to teach you stuff, they're just a way to fuck with you AND give us old fuckers an excuse to run our jaws.

Jesus did it, and hell, he stole the idea from Buddha.  Make 'em think you said something profound, when all you did was tell a jimmy joke.

(Note:  There's something important in there, but you'll have to figure it out for yourself.  No, really.)

[LMNO]

Fuck you for thinking this might have been easy for you.

[Halfbaked1]

Fuck you for thinking this might have been easy for you.

Nothing in my life has been easy man.  No reason to change that now.  I have learned every job i ever had by being tossed in the deep end with the sharks to see if I can swim.  You guys aint nothing I haven't seen before.  Just better educated than the lot around here.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Fuck you for thinking this might have been easy for you.

Nothing in my life has been easy man. 

WHOA WHOA WHOA!  As God is my witness, I stopped right there.

For your own good, you understand.  That's heading down a road that Planeswalker could tell you a thing or two about.

Now, you want a chance to edit that, or should I just go ahead and read it?

[Halfbaked1]

Doesn't matter man.  i respect you guys alot because of your straightforward way of being and calling me on how I term things.  but you know what?  I don't have the fuckin energy to play all these fuckin games.  I thought being Discordian was about being apart from everyone else and looking at the world thru a different lens, not being bastards to new people who just don't know what the fuck is goin on.  I'll just be the big pussy and sod off.  I haven't been this antagonistic in years and I don't fuckin like it.

EDIT: I was gonna remove this, but i am gonna leave it to remind me how much of a dumbass I can be at times.

[LMNO]

Enjoy going with the flow. I hope you find your Utopia where everyone agrees with whatever stupid thing you say. It's the Internet, I'm thinking you won't have to go far.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Doesn't matter man.  i respect you guys alot because of your straightforward way of being and calling me on how I term things.  but you know what?  I don't have the fuckin energy to play all these fuckin games.  I thought being Discordian was about being apart from everyone else and looking at the world thru a different lens, not being bastards to new people who just don't know what the fuck is goin on.  I'll just be the big pussy and sod off.  I haven't been this antagonistic in years and I don't fuckin like it.

Sorry to hear it, but I suppose not everyone can be serious about having a good time.

This is no day and age to half-ass things.

[Halfbaked1]

Enjoy going with the flow. I hope you find your Utopia where everyone agrees with whatever stupid thing you say. It's the Internet, I'm thinking you won't have to go far.

Okay, so here I am, all ready to just throw in the towel right?  Well I start thinking that I never gave up my entire fuckin life...okay well there was that one time, but she woulda been bad news anyway.  You wanna know what my Utopia is man?  It's a place where I know where I fucking stand.  You think I'm fulla shit and a dumbass, I think you are a jackass.  That doesn'tr mean I don't like you cause all my pals are jackasses and I tell them that regularly.  Nice to know you.

Now, why the hell can't math have existed as an abstract (might not be the right word)?  I mean, if everything is essentially chaos then the language that developed around the idea of maths to describe the chaos in quantifiable terms is a pretty normal thing for so-called sentients aint it?  That's why we have to re-examine the whole physics thing periodically because as we learn more we have to develop new ways of understanding all the crap we learn.  Or am I completely mistaken?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well I start thinking that I never gave up my entire fuckin life...okay well there was that one time, but she woulda been bad news anyway. 

Aw, hell no.  That's when you take it right to the wall.

You kids...ya just don't know how to rock n roll.

[Halfbaked1]

What can I say man?  I didn't say it was the right choice, just that she woulda been trouble.  Trouble CAN be fun.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What can I say man?  I didn't say it was the right choice, just that she woulda been trouble.  Trouble CAN be fun.

Trouble is always fun.  Trust dirty old Uncle Roger on that one, if you never listen to anything else I say.  Especially when that fun is likely to beat the hell out of random strangers, pistol whip people, and drink WAY too much rum.  But the Rolling Stones always set her straight, and she had a way of stating her case that was very hard to beat.  On the other hand, she stole my fucking cigars constantly, and did horrible things to the neighbors. 

But that was back in the good old days, when we thought nothing of chowing on peyote and puking off the balcony onto the meth heads far below, while Mick Jagger howled out Sympathy for the Devil, and Monday was just another sleep in morning.

It couldn't last, and of course it didn't, but it was a hoot and it's always good to know that no matter how crazy things got, or how many laws we broke, we could still fuck up the religious neighbors' heads with wanton balcony sex.

Good times.

[Telarus]

 




Also, 0 = 2.

[Halfbaked1]

Also, 0 = 2.

It's 0134 here and right now you could tell me that Moose = 2 and I would be okay with that

[Triple Zero]

for centuries without it, the appearance of Zero was guaranteed to happen eventually.

[LMNO]

if everything is essentially chaos

Good start.  And we, as pattern makers, invented a way to impose patterns on the chaos.

One of these patterns was math.  That doesn't mean math existed before we invented it, but once the pattern was created then it framed the Chaos in such a way that other patterns could be created.

Chapter 25 of the Chao te Ching:


There is Something that exists,
Beyond the Illusions of Order and Disorder.
It is all things, and unknowable in full.
We only see small parts of It,
but are convinced what we see is the entire Universe.

For lack of a better name, I call It "Chaos".
At dinner parties, I claim It is everything Possible and Impossible.
When asked why not call It "god",
I point out that their head is too fucking small.

Because we create the Illusions in which we live,
we are more creative than Chaos.
Because we believe in the Illusions we create,
our heads are too fucking small.
In this way, we reflect our creations.

And Chapter 40:

Incomprehensible Totality is the nature of Chaos.
The absence of Illusion is the state of Chaos.
All spags in the world create their own Illusions,
and then spend the rest of their lives bound by them.

for centuries without it, the appearance of Zero was guaranteed to happen eventually.

QED, bitches.