Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

[Suu]

It has been a long-standing personal policy of mine that if one of my waitstaff is having problems with a table full of dickbags who are obviously going to leave a shitty tip (or no tip - thanks foreigners!) that that table's ticket will mysteriously keep getting pushed down the dupe rack until all the real peoples' orders have been sent out.

Yep. If they aren't going to tip me and I know it, they may as well suffer.

[Suu]

since we're on the subject of tipping - i have a tipping question:

i sometimes go to the local bar and grill for morning coffee.  now, i think it's important to note that this is true middle of nowhere type of place.  i.e. the bar is the gas station is the general store is the only reason google maps knows where it is kind of place.

the terms for coffee are: go get a cup, they're behind the bar, and fill it yourself.  if the coffee runs out, go ahead and make another pot.  this isn't due to a lazy employee or anything - it's usually the owner and they're busy ordering stuff and cleaning/opening.

coffee is a dollar - free refills.  i usually have 3 or 4 cups.

i used to leave 50 cents or a dollar tip.  but i quit leaving a tip, cuz i was like - if anyone should get the tip, it should be me.

am i out of line for not leaving a tip?

You're not really being waited on. So no. IF you were sitting at a counter and a server brought you the cup and refilled it for you, then yes.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This is making me want kafta.

[Suu]

I have discovered that the reason tips suddenly took a dip was Oprah.

She said that it was "Okay" to tip your waitstaff "less than 20%" in these "hard economic times".

And everyone knows, the word of Oprah is GOD'S LAW.

[LMNO]

Wow.  So, the person who can afford to go out to eat can skimp on tips, and the person who only gets $2.50 an hour gets screwed.


Nice job breaking it, Oprah.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I make a point to be polite to people who handle my food out of my line of sight.  Also, the first thing I look at on a date is how she talks to the waiter/waitress.  Being rude or condescending to the wait staff is a sure sign that I am eating dinner with a scumbag, and no matter how hot she was before, she suddenly turns all ugly and warty.

I also make a point of tipping 30% or more.  The amount of money involved is meaningless to me, and means a great deal to the poor bastard stuck in what is arguably the worst job in the world.  Same goes with Pizza dudes.

[Suu]

Wow.  So, the person who can afford to go out to eat can skimp on tips, and the person who only gets $2.50 an hour gets screwed.


Nice job breaking it, Oprah.

Unfortunately, it seems that people are screaming the racial argument that black people always tip less and she's no exception.

See also: One of my first posts in which I felt like waiting tables was making me racist.


-Suu
Has waited on enough celebrities and professional athletes to know they're mostly 20%'ers anyway. Unless you're Dustin Hoffmann, than you're just an awesome human being AND a 75% tipper.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I have discovered that the reason tips suddenly took a dip was Oprah.

She said that it was "Okay" to tip your waitstaff "less than 20%" in these "hard economic times".

And everyone knows, the word of Oprah is GOD'S LAW.

That is such bullshit! If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out.

[Eater of Clowns]

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Z³]

I have discovered that the reason tips suddenly took a dip was Oprah.

She said that it was "Okay" to tip your waitstaff "less than 20%" in these "hard economic times".

And everyone knows, the word of Oprah is GOD'S LAW.

She was also responsible for an upsurge in KFC sales after their grilled chicken campaign.
Seriously. Oprah is a tool of the Masheen. Possibly a Tyson puppet.

[Z³]

Unfortunately, it seems that people are screaming the racial argument that black people always tip less and she's no exception.

See also: One of my first posts in which I felt like waiting tables was making me racist.

Sadly this phenomenon is common, thankfully there are enough people that break the mold so racial profiling at a restaraunt isn't going to be universally true. What it is, really, is that dealing with the public on a day to day basis can have harmful effects on ones psyche.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, it's exactly like coffee shops. Which means they make minimum wage and work hard, and you should tip.

[Eater of Clowns]

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, it's exactly like coffee shops. Which means they make minimum wage and work hard, and you should tip.

So if I were to walk into a place and ask for a coffee, regular drip coffee, they turn around, pour it into a cup, and hand it to me, I should pay how much extra for that work?  We're talking 30 seconds of work, or in the case of the bagel place up to two minutes.  Do I pay a dollar tip for a $1.50 cup of coffee?  And what if I'm already paying the higher price to go to support a locally owned business?

I'm not arguing that they're paid great or that their job is easy, but at what point does this start getting out of control?  The people in the dressing rooms at stores get about minimum wage, do I tip them for showing me which one to use?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for tipping where it's due.  This is my devil's advocate act because I am genuinely confused.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, it's exactly like coffee shops. Which means they make minimum wage and work hard, and you should tip.

So if I were to walk into a place and ask for a coffee, regular drip coffee, they turn around, pour it into a cup, and hand it to me, I should pay how much extra for that work?  We're talking 30 seconds of work, or in the case of the bagel place up to two minutes.  Do I pay a dollar tip for a $1.50 cup of coffee?  And what if I'm already paying the higher price to go to support a locally owned business?

I'm not arguing that they're paid great or that their job is easy, but at what point does this start getting out of control?  The people in the dressing rooms at stores get about minimum wage, do I tip them for showing me which one to use?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for tipping where it's due.  This is my devil's advocate act because I am genuinely confused.

Listen, it's either you're playing Devil's Advocate or you're genuinely confused. The two are mutually exclusive.

WTF is wrong with you, are you stupid? You can't figure out 15% of $1.50? Drop a fucking quarter in and call it good.

Those fuckers at the coffee shop have to be there at 4:30 in the morning, they have to grind and brew the coffee and keep the place clean and be on their feet, MOVE MOVE MOVE, with lines out the door, scalding potential at every turn (and they do get burned, a lot) and oblivious assholes like you who expect to be served in under a minute.

It's the SERVICE FUCKING INDUSTRY. You fucking entitled bourgeois prig.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Seriously, there's a FUCKING TIP JAR there for idiots who can't figure out whether they're supposed to tip. Put a fucking quarter in it.