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Started by Suu, November 18, 2009, 05:45:47 AM

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Kai

Quote from: Suu on November 18, 2009, 04:15:11 PM
I was told the opposite when it comes to homeopathic medicines which I swear by.  Things like NyQuil are really just analgesics anyway and mask the symptoms temporarily. (I more or less took it so I could sleep good, because I don't sleep when I'm sick, and I also had a fever that needed reducing.)

However, another thing to remember for people that may be feeling kinda sick this year too, is that zinc and Airborne won't do shit for influenza, only rhinovirus (colds).  And echinacea is only preventative. Once you're symptomatic, there's not really anything it will do (but it won't hurt either.)

I'm off today, so basically I'll be popping a Cold-Eeze every 3 hours, drinking tea and water, and orange juice. If my throat gets sore, I'll have a Ricola in between Cold-Eeze. But I also have a lot of shit to do, so I can't lay around. Which I personally feel is the worst thing you can do when you're sick anyway.

I thought that nyquil was anti inflammatory.

That said, homeopathic medicines don't have active ingredients.. You'd be better off working the psychosomatics via a cheaper means.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
I got some sinusy thing, AND I mangled my legs at the gym last night.  On the treadmill.  I was distracted by an amazing ass on the eliptical ahead of me, my legs got tangled up, and I shot off the back of the treadmill at 4.2 MPH, in a heap.

I spent about 2.5 hours on the eliptical waiting on my ride to finish working out and bullshitting.  My legs did not want to work anymore.  There was some guy behind me for a while.  I am happy to know you are on another continent, otherwise I might be worried about you violating my man ass.

No, this DEFINITELY wasn't man ass.  Too young for my taste (she was in her mid 20s or so), but DAMN.

TGRR,
DAMN.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

rygD

Quote from: Suu on November 18, 2009, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Suu, do you know what it might be?

Did anybody here get sick from the pig flu vaccine?  (Maybe I should ask who got the vaccine.  I told them I didn't want or need it, but it wasn't my choice...)  Many people here said they got ickiness from it.  I, as usual, was fine.

I don't give a fuck what it is, because it's not about to be around long enough to tell the tale. I'm already feeling 75% better than I did yesterday.

I didn't get the vaccine or any flu immunization because I don't want to pay to be injected with a live portion of the influenza virus in hopes it doesn't make me sick. I have faith in my immune system and the supplements I'm taking to blow this shit out of my system effectively. The best vaccination is exposure and then knowing how to care for it. Like Chicken Pox. I've survived Scarlet Fever, Mononucleosis and a fucking E. Coli infection, no shitty little cold or flu is going to take me alive.

However, if it IS the pig pox, and my roommates catch it, I will probably laugh. Hard.



I haven't really gotten really sick since I was a child.  I used to spend a while in the hospital every so often as a child.  More than one ambulance ride.  Mostly asthma stuff.  I don't really get sick anymore.  A little bit occasionally but nothing like what my family gets.  I have received some experimental vaccines, and I make sure to expose my immune system to all kinds of fun little threats.  These might have helped a bit.  I don't mind vaccines but I don't like getting them if it isn't something that will kill me.  Now when they start combining H1N1 and bird flu and I start seeing reports of people dying with flying pig flu I might get worried.  Might.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

rygD

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
I got some sinusy thing, AND I mangled my legs at the gym last night.  On the treadmill.  I was distracted by an amazing ass on the eliptical ahead of me, my legs got tangled up, and I shot off the back of the treadmill at 4.2 MPH, in a heap.

I spent about 2.5 hours on the eliptical waiting on my ride to finish working out and bullshitting.  My legs did not want to work anymore.  There was some guy behind me for a while.  I am happy to know you are on another continent, otherwise I might be worried about you violating my man ass.

No, this DEFINITELY wasn't man ass.  Too young for my taste (she was in her mid 20s or so), but DAMN.

TGRR,
DAMN.

Yeah, doesn't matter if they are not for you, they are still fun to look at sometimes.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
I got some sinusy thing, AND I mangled my legs at the gym last night.  On the treadmill.  I was distracted by an amazing ass on the eliptical ahead of me, my legs got tangled up, and I shot off the back of the treadmill at 4.2 MPH, in a heap.

I spent about 2.5 hours on the eliptical waiting on my ride to finish working out and bullshitting.  My legs did not want to work anymore.  There was some guy behind me for a while.  I am happy to know you are on another continent, otherwise I might be worried about you violating my man ass.

No, this DEFINITELY wasn't man ass.  Too young for my taste (she was in her mid 20s or so), but DAMN.

TGRR,
DAMN.

Yeah, doesn't matter if they are not for you, they are still fun to look at sometimes.

It wasn't fun.  It was NECESSITY.  An ass like that comes along maybe once in a century.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

fomenter

i can vouch for the anti ox i recommended being helpful to head off the sick. i was getting laid out 3 or 4 times a year, now i take it if i am suffering from exhaustion worn down, getting allergy's or feel the sick scratching the back of my throat, i don't catch stuff anywhere near as often now..  
"So she says to me, do you wanna be a BAD boy? And I say YEAH baby YEAH! Surf's up space ponies! I'm makin' gravy... Without the lumps. HAAA-ha-ha-ha!"


hmroogp

Suu

Quote from: Kai on November 18, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 18, 2009, 04:15:11 PM
I was told the opposite when it comes to homeopathic medicines which I swear by.  Things like NyQuil are really just analgesics anyway and mask the symptoms temporarily. (I more or less took it so I could sleep good, because I don't sleep when I'm sick, and I also had a fever that needed reducing.)

However, another thing to remember for people that may be feeling kinda sick this year too, is that zinc and Airborne won't do shit for influenza, only rhinovirus (colds).  And echinacea is only preventative. Once you're symptomatic, there's not really anything it will do (but it won't hurt either.)

I'm off today, so basically I'll be popping a Cold-Eeze every 3 hours, drinking tea and water, and orange juice. If my throat gets sore, I'll have a Ricola in between Cold-Eeze. But I also have a lot of shit to do, so I can't lay around. Which I personally feel is the worst thing you can do when you're sick anyway.

I thought that nyquil was anti inflammatory.

That said, homeopathic medicines don't have active ingredients.. You'd be better off working the psychosomatics via a cheaper means.

Maybe I'm getting my drugs screwed up.  :?

NyQuil DOES have acetominophen, which is an anti-inflammatory and analgesic, but it also has an antihistamine, expectorant, and a shit ton of alcohol per dose. I really hate the stuff, but I knew I wouldn't be comfortable last night without it, so I popped a dose and passed out. This morning I feel SO much better after a full night's sleep. I'm sure a shot of brandy probably could have had the same effect though, but I don't like fucking around with an inflamed throat with my allergy history.

It's better this morning, still a bit sore, but not swollen like it was yesterday. I'm also having wicked sinus congestion, so I thought it could be post nasal drip, but that usually doesn't cause swelling. I also started sneezing yesterday and got a bit achy.

Also, I am a firm believer in psychosomatic treatment. I just tell myself that I'm not getting this, and it usually works.

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

rygD

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
I got some sinusy thing, AND I mangled my legs at the gym last night.  On the treadmill.  I was distracted by an amazing ass on the eliptical ahead of me, my legs got tangled up, and I shot off the back of the treadmill at 4.2 MPH, in a heap.

I spent about 2.5 hours on the eliptical waiting on my ride to finish working out and bullshitting.  My legs did not want to work anymore.  There was some guy behind me for a while.  I am happy to know you are on another continent, otherwise I might be worried about you violating my man ass.

No, this DEFINITELY wasn't man ass.  Too young for my taste (she was in her mid 20s or so), but DAMN.

TGRR,
DAMN.

Yeah, doesn't matter if they are not for you, they are still fun to look at sometimes.

It wasn't fun.  It was NECESSITY.  An ass like that comes along maybe once in a century.

Did you sneak some pictures also, or just fall off?
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 18, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
I got some sinusy thing, AND I mangled my legs at the gym last night.  On the treadmill.  I was distracted by an amazing ass on the eliptical ahead of me, my legs got tangled up, and I shot off the back of the treadmill at 4.2 MPH, in a heap.

I spent about 2.5 hours on the eliptical waiting on my ride to finish working out and bullshitting.  My legs did not want to work anymore.  There was some guy behind me for a while.  I am happy to know you are on another continent, otherwise I might be worried about you violating my man ass.

No, this DEFINITELY wasn't man ass.  Too young for my taste (she was in her mid 20s or so), but DAMN.

TGRR,
DAMN.

Yeah, doesn't matter if they are not for you, they are still fun to look at sometimes.

It wasn't fun.  It was NECESSITY.  An ass like that comes along maybe once in a century.

Did you sneak some pictures also, or just fall off?

Just fell off.  There was no TIME for cameras, man!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Kai

Quote from: Suu on November 18, 2009, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: Kai on November 18, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: Suu on November 18, 2009, 04:15:11 PM
I was told the opposite when it comes to homeopathic medicines which I swear by.  Things like NyQuil are really just analgesics anyway and mask the symptoms temporarily. (I more or less took it so I could sleep good, because I don't sleep when I'm sick, and I also had a fever that needed reducing.)

However, another thing to remember for people that may be feeling kinda sick this year too, is that zinc and Airborne won't do shit for influenza, only rhinovirus (colds).  And echinacea is only preventative. Once you're symptomatic, there's not really anything it will do (but it won't hurt either.)

I'm off today, so basically I'll be popping a Cold-Eeze every 3 hours, drinking tea and water, and orange juice. If my throat gets sore, I'll have a Ricola in between Cold-Eeze. But I also have a lot of shit to do, so I can't lay around. Which I personally feel is the worst thing you can do when you're sick anyway.

I thought that nyquil was anti inflammatory.

That said, homeopathic medicines don't have active ingredients.. You'd be better off working the psychosomatics via a cheaper means.

Maybe I'm getting my drugs screwed up.  :?

NyQuil DOES have acetominophen, which is an anti-inflammatory and analgesic, but it also has an antihistamine, expectorant, and a shit ton of alcohol per dose. I really hate the stuff, but I knew I wouldn't be comfortable last night without it, so I popped a dose and passed out. This morning I feel SO much better after a full night's sleep. I'm sure a shot of brandy probably could have had the same effect though, but I don't like fucking around with an inflamed throat with my allergy history.

It's better this morning, still a bit sore, but not swollen like it was yesterday. I'm also having wicked sinus congestion, so I thought it could be post nasal drip, but that usually doesn't cause swelling. I also started sneezing yesterday and got a bit achy.

Also, I am a firm believer in psychosomatic treatment. I just tell myself that I'm not getting this, and it usually works.



Ohhhhhh, THATS what you meant by homeopathy.  :)
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Cramulus

Quote from: rygD on November 18, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
Suu, do you know what it might be?

Did anybody here get sick from the pig flu vaccine?  (Maybe I should ask who got the vaccine.  I told them I didn't want or need it, but it wasn't my choice...)  Many people here said they got ickiness from it.  I, as usual, was fine.


wait - did somebody MAKE you get the vaccine???


Suu

A lot of colleges are forcing it on their students. Or of course, if you're a minor, your parents could make you and you won't have a choice either.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Cramulus

that's fucked uuuuup


Did you know that the drug companies (Glaxo-Smith Kline et al) who are producing this vaccine are all like, "Hey World Health Organization - you're asking us to produce so much of this stuff in such a short amount of time, we want legal immunity in case anything goes wrong."

and yes, statistically, some people will be paralyzed. PARALYZED. by the vaccine. and they will have nobody to sue about it.


To make matters worse, in Massachusetts, they're trying to strong arm in some legislation with which they can JAIL or FINE you for not taking the vaccine. The vaccine which might paralyze you and nobody will be accountable.


So you don't even get to die on your own terms anymore.

The Good Reverend Roger

I hope this turns into one of those horrible vaccination threads, and everything catches fire and sinks.

Just as an aside.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

This thread is now one post away from becoming Jenny McCarthy.


Just saying.



LMNO
-Science, bitches.