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Started by Cain, November 25, 2009, 03:41:40 PM

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Suu

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

hooplala

Quote from: Cain on November 25, 2009, 05:32:29 PM

Oh yeah.  The best bit was the fifth book was just a rehashing of the first book, but from the other main character's POV.

Always a bad sign when an author starts stealing ideas from VC Andrews.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

LMNO

Here's the thing: The first 4 books are written as if by a young girl who hates herself; Meyer sucks so bad at writing that this technique sort of works.

However, shifting the POV to a century-old, incredibly self-assured vampire would mean a complete shift of voice, tone, and style.

If Meyer could pull that off, I'd actually respect her more.

Thurnez Isa

The 5th book should be a retelling of the first book

with some actual vampires
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Suu

http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/thehost_movie.html

Oh fuck. I can see the Twihards lining up now, and then halfway through the film they realize there's no sparkly vampires and start a riot.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Suu on November 25, 2009, 05:37:25 PM
Midnight Sun...including links to her draft:

http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/midnightsun.html

QuoteMidnight Sun: Edward's Version of Twilight
August 28, 2008

As some of you may have heard, my partial draft of Midnight Sun was illegally posted on the Internet and has since been virally distributed without my knowledge or permission or the knowledge or permission of my publisher.

I have a good idea of how the leak happened as there were very few copies of Midnight Sun that left my possession and each was unique. Due to little changes I made to the manuscript at different times, I can tell when each left my possession and to whom it was given. The manuscript that was illegally distributed on the Internet was given to trusted individuals for a good purpose. I have no comment beyond that as I believe that there was no malicious intent with the initial distribution.

I did not want my readers to experience Midnight Sun before it was completed, edited and published. I think it is important for everybody to understand that what happened was a huge violation of my rights as an author, not to mention me as a human being. As the author of the Twilight Saga, I control the copyright and it is up to the owner of the copyright to decide when the books should be made public; this is the same for musicians and filmmakers. Just because someone buys a book or movie or song, or gets a download off the Internet, doesn't mean that they own the right to reproduce and distribute it. Unfortunately, with the Internet, it is easy for people to obtain and share items that do not legally belong to them. No matter how this is done, it is still dishonest. This has been a very upsetting experience for me, but I hope it will at least leave my fans with a better understanding of copyright and the importance of artistic control.

So where does this leave Midnight Sun? My first feeling was that there was no way to continue. Writing isn't like math; in math, two plus two always equals four no matter what your mood is like. With writing, the way you feel changes everything. If I tried to write Midnight Sun now, in my current frame of mind, James would probably win and all the Cullens would die, which wouldn't dovetail too well with the original story. In any case, I feel too sad about what has happened to continue working on Midnight Sun, and so it is on hold indefinitely.

I'd rather my fans not read this version of Midnight Sun. It was only an incomplete draft; the writing is messy and flawed and full of mistakes. But how do I comment on this violation without driving more people to look for the illegal posting? It has taken me a while to decide how and if I could respond. But to end the confusion, I've decided to make the draft available here (at the end of this post). This way, my readers don't have to feel they have to make a sacrifice to stay honest. I hope this fragment gives you further insight into Edward's head and adds a new dimension to the Twilight story. That's what inspired me to write it in the first place.

I do want to take a moment and thank the wonderful fans who have been so supportive of me over the past three years. I cannot begin to tell you how much each of you means to me. I only hope this note will stop all the confusion and online speculation so that the Twilight universe can once again become the happy escape it used to be. After this incredibly busy year, I am now focusing on spending more time with my family and working on some other writing projects.

--Stephenie

HANG ON, STEPHENIE, AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT STEPHEN KING'S AFTERWORD IN THE DARK TOWER SERIES WAS THE BEST FLOUNCE OF ALL TIME.

OF.

ALL.

TIME.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Cain

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 25, 2009, 05:39:19 PM
The 5th book should be a retelling of the first book

with some actual vampires

I've read good re-tellings of the first book.

They were Twilight/Buffy the Vampire Slayer crossover fanfiction, though.

Cramulus

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
HANG ON, STEPHENIE, AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT STEPHEN KING'S AFTERWORD IN THE DARK TOWER SERIES WAS THE BEST FLOUNCE OF ALL TIME.

OF.

ALL.

TIME.

what he say in the afterword?

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cramulus on November 25, 2009, 05:49:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
HANG ON, STEPHENIE, AND IMA LET YOU FINISH, BUT STEPHEN KING'S AFTERWORD IN THE DARK TOWER SERIES WAS THE BEST FLOUNCE OF ALL TIME.

OF.

ALL.

TIME.

what he say in the afterword?

That writing it was really traumatic and he didn't want to do it but his fans made him and he will never go back to the old style of horror he used to do* and that he doesn't ever want to talk about it with anyone and stop with the fucking fan mail and it's really HARD being a genius.


* you know, the kind that sold books?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

Although, he has announced he will be writing a new Dark Tower book...
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Although, he has announced he will be writing a new Dark Tower book...

Guess he's run through a pile of cash.   :lulz:

It better be the story about how Cuthbert and Alain died, at that one battle.  That being omitted has pissed me off to no end.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Although, he has announced he will be writing a new Dark Tower book...

Guess he's run through a pile of cash.   :lulz:

It better be the story about how Cuthbert and Alain died, at that one battle.  That being omitted has pissed me off to no end.

Exactly what I was thinking.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2009, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 25, 2009, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 25, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
Although, he has announced he will be writing a new Dark Tower book...

Guess he's run through a pile of cash.   :lulz:

It better be the story about how Cuthbert and Alain died, at that one battle.  That being omitted has pissed me off to no end.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Or maybe he writes for the same reason I rant.

Remember, back in the bad old days?

ROGER:  "I've had it with you fuckos!  LATER."

two days later...

ROGER:  "SERMON #30.  OH, AND I STILL HATE YOU FUCKERS."

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Richter

King's an interesting one.  His stories are great, but I can't stand his writing.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

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