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Started by Freeky, November 30, 2009, 10:00:58 PM

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navkat

Quote from: Nigel on March 09, 2012, 03:51:00 PM
I can't fucking believe they gave a 4-year-old a medicine containing aspirin. This is one of the basic "DO NEVAR"s that ALL PARENTS KNOW. That shit can kill them.

And they gave it to him without asking your permission, which is illegal.

Exactamundo. I mean, I took home a parent-info sheet in second grade that was passed out to all the kids in my school about the dangers of RMSF and Reye's. It is the reason why "baby aspirin" ceased to become a HH phrase in the 80s and was replaced by acetaminophen being the general pn reliever.

Don Coyote

Well fuck Freeky. I hope Monkey is fine.
On the other hand, I didn't know that aspirin wasn't to be used on children. Not that it's problem because we don't have any aspirin in the house.

navkat

I'm sure Freeky got some electrolytes into that child with a quickness. Mommies know.

Also: Rice and bananas. Simple foods, binding agents, less likely to make the poor child vom.

Personal experience wisdom: for the vomitous child, don't bother with those stupid OTC pediatric anti-nausea preparations, they are made up of pure sugar and little else. Get a Rx for Phenergan suppositories from your kid's pediatrician and tell him you'd like enough to keep it in the medicine chest for next time. Most Docs, (once they know you're a competent mommy) have no problem with this.

Another good tip: get a product called "Fever All" to keep in the house. It's acetaminophen suppository so if you ever have a scare where Monkey's running a fever but can't keep anything down, you have a plan B in the house.


</mommy advice>

LMNO

Speaking as a non-father who has no experience with infants, the thought of shoving things into a baby's ass freaks me out.


I'm pretty sure I'd get over it the instant one shits all over me, but still.

navkat

You get over it the minute you realize your choices are:
1. Shove this medicine-bullet into child's ass
or
2. Watch my child crash and have a febrile seizure or die of dehydration.

Even children who are old enough to get mad about you using the exit as an entrance are too weak to fight you by the time you've arrived at that particular crossroads and it's time to do it and then get 'em in the car.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 09, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Well fuck Freeky. I hope Monkey is fine.
On the other hand, I didn't know that aspirin wasn't to be used on children. Not that it's problem because we don't have any aspirin in the house.

Wait, do you have kids?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Don Coyote

Quote from: Nigel on March 09, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 09, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Well fuck Freeky. I hope Monkey is fine.
On the other hand, I didn't know that aspirin wasn't to be used on children. Not that it's problem because we don't have any aspirin in the house.

Wait, do you have kids?

Not yet. But that is something I thought I would have picked up on. I mean the reason we don't have aspirin in the house is because I like taking other NSAIDs, but sometimes they need more so I take tylenol with them, and aspirin doesn't play nice with other NSAIDs.

Triple Zero

Wait, but tylenol (paracetamol) is not aspirin.

Anyway, today I learned not to give kids aspirin. Except that I would always consult the Patient Info Leaflet anyway (it's a folded up piece of paper in every OTC medication here), because I've read those things often enough to know that they usually have special indications about whether it's suitable for kids or not (if only concerning the dosage, which often needs to be halved or quartered).
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 09, 2012, 07:54:12 PM
Quote from: Nigel on March 09, 2012, 07:51:09 PM
Quote from: Guru Coyote on March 09, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Well fuck Freeky. I hope Monkey is fine.
On the other hand, I didn't know that aspirin wasn't to be used on children. Not that it's problem because we don't have any aspirin in the house.

Wait, do you have kids?

Not yet. But that is something I thought I would have picked up on. I mean the reason we don't have aspirin in the house is because I like taking other NSAIDs, but sometimes they need more so I take tylenol with them, and aspirin doesn't play nice with other NSAIDs.

Ah.  :lol: I was momentarily confused by your sentence.

Don't worry too much about the stuff you don't know about kids yet, because when it's time you (or at least, your pregnant counterpart) will get fed allll kinds of crucial info starting with the first OB visit, which she'll instinctively relay to you, and continuing through childbirth/baby car classes at the hospital, and also most likely someone will gift you at least one good baby book.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


navkat

#534
Acetaminophen isn't an NSAID either.

Aspirin is an anti-throbotic...meaning, it inhibits blood clotting. It's also got some mild smooth-muscle (vascular, bronchiole) dilator properties which can actually cause your BP to drop a bit (but not as much as nitroglycerin), which is why we give it to chest pn patients.

Factoid: LOOOONG term use of aspirin can cause some permanent changes to your blood's ability to clot which is why these people who self-administer an aspirin-a-day to prevent heart disease without a Doc telling them it's okay are stupid. This knowledge alone is a major reason why I have decided to completely stop experimenting with recreational shit. I've learned all I care to from altering my mental status and honestly; if aspirin can fuck you up long-term, I don't even want to THINK about how dumping my entire serotonin stores onto my neurotransmitters is gonna affect me after a few more years of use.

Don Coyote

Quote from: Triple Zero on March 09, 2012, 08:01:37 PM
Wait, but tylenol (paracetamol) is not aspirin.

Exactly, which is why I have tylenol and not aspirin.

Freeky

I think you're cool on mixing acetominophen and aspirin?


Anyway, I'm going to print this out and give it to my ex, because he's a dumbfuck and this is some brilliant denouncing from total strangers.  And then I'm going to see if I can add this* to my pretrial statement as, like, emergency evidence or something.

*meaning the incident, not this thread.


Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on March 09, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
Anyway, I'm going to print this out and give it to my ex, because he's a dumbfuck and this is some brilliant denouncing from total strangers. 

I'd advise against that, Freeky.
Molon Lube

Freeky

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 09, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on March 09, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
Anyway, I'm going to print this out and give it to my ex, because he's a dumbfuck and this is some brilliant denouncing from total strangers. 

I'd advise against that, Freeky.

Well, I'm still going to see if they have emergency evidence adding.


Also, Navkat, I have told her before that she isn't the mom, and she doesn't have any right to be telling either of us what to be doing.  Her response to that was that she is a part of Monkey's life and she wants to put him on the right track (?!) and she watches him when he's over at his daddy's house so she is in a position where she has every right to make decisions.  You put it way more clearly than I could, though.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on March 09, 2012, 08:46:44 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 09, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on March 09, 2012, 08:41:50 PM
Anyway, I'm going to print this out and give it to my ex, because he's a dumbfuck and this is some brilliant denouncing from total strangers. 

I'd advise against that, Freeky.

Well, I'm still going to see if they have emergency evidence adding.

If he has til the day of the trial, so do you.  If I were you, I'd call the clerk and ask how you go about adding evidence, paperwork wise.
Molon Lube