Renamed: GOD. DAMN. IT.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

So I'm at the downtown library right now. I went to the courthouse finally, but I couldn't get all the packets I need because I have  no moneys to buy them with. I need 9, with an optional 10th one for a reason I forgot. 

The only weirdo I spotted today was some guy talking to some old lady on the bus, and showed her a picture of a diseased foot. I was listening to my headphones, so I don't know what they said...

WHERE DO YOU FIND THE WEIRDIES, ROGER?! 

You probably walked past a dozen of them.  Still, some guy displaying a pic of a diseased foot to random old ladies is a good start...but you probably missed the best bit by wearing headphones instead of paying attention.

[Freeky]

So I'm at the downtown library right now. I went to the courthouse finally, but I couldn't get all the packets I need because I have  no moneys to buy them with. I need 9, with an optional 10th one for a reason I forgot. 

The only weirdo I spotted today was some guy talking to some old lady on the bus, and showed her a picture of a diseased foot. I was listening to my headphones, so I don't know what they said...

WHERE DO YOU FIND THE WEIRDIES, ROGER?! 

You probably walked past a dozen of them.  Still, some guy displaying a pic of a diseased foot to random old ladies is a good start...but you probably missed the best bit by wearing headphones instead of paying attention.

Yes. When I come to drop them back off again, I will take the bus and not listen to headphones.

[Dysnomia]

this whole thread makes me 



I'm right behind Nigel.  He needs to pay you more than 200 a month because that is chump change when it comes to having to support yourself and your kid.  You absolutely should nail him for the child support, and if he threatens to take your kid away from you (oh sorry...NOT threaten to file for full custody... ) you should file for full custody as well.  Words cannot describe how I feel about your mother. 

[Freeky]

this whole thread makes me 



I'm right behind Nigel.  He needs to pay you more than 200 a month because that is chump change when it comes to having to support yourself and your kid.  You absolutely should nail him for the child support, and if he threatens to take your kid away from you (oh sorry...NOT threaten to file for full custody... ) you should file for full custody as well.  Words cannot describe how I feel about your mother. 

I agree with the bolded part especially, although she hasn't been really bad for a few days.

Yeah, I feel like a total heel, but I've got some of the paperwork I need filled out in order to start the ball rolling on all that crap. I don't think I'll ever NOT feel like a twat going through with this, so I've just gotta.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

this whole thread makes me 



I'm right behind Nigel.  He needs to pay you more than 200 a month because that is chump change when it comes to having to support yourself and your kid.  You absolutely should nail him for the child support, and if he threatens to take your kid away from you (oh sorry...NOT threaten to file for full custody... ) you should file for full custody as well.  Words cannot describe how I feel about your mother. 

I agree with the bolded part especially, although she hasn't been really bad for a few days.

Yeah, I feel like a total heel, but I've got some of the paperwork I need filled out in order to start the ball rolling on all that crap. I don't think I'll ever NOT feel like a twat going through with this, so I've just gotta.

Why would you feel like a heel?  It's his kid, too, and you DID try to do things the easy way.

[Freeky]

Why would you feel like a heel?  It's his kid, too, and you DID try to do things the easy way.

Because he brought up good points. I am old enough to work, and being on the system for the rest of my life isn't feasible (not that I want that), and it isn't fair if it isn't 50/50 all the way. And he usually ends such conversations in statements that run along the lines of "I know you have it in you, you have such potential, and you're not living up to that potential" and so on.

It's sometimes too easy to see the other side of the argument for me.

[Dysnomia]

He's trying to worm his way out of paying more child support.  Don't listen to his bullshit about being 'too old' to go to school, and who ever said you were going to be "on the system" for the rest of your life?  50/50 is fair, but 200 a month is bullshit.  He should fork over at least 1k imo, because rent, and childcare are EXPENSIVE!

[Freeky]

He's trying to worm his way out of paying more child support.  Don't listen to his bullshit about being 'too old' to go to school, and who ever said you were going to be "on the system" for the rest of your life?  50/50 is fair, but 200 a month is bullshit.  He should fork over at least 1k imo, because rent, and childcare are EXPENSIVE!

According to the state, it'll be about 600 out of his paycheck. You must have misread somewhere, because he never said I was too old to go to school. He just thinks I ought to get a job too, which, on top of not having a full-time babysitter if I worked, would be out of the question.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

this whole thread makes me 



I'm right behind Nigel.  He needs to pay you more than 200 a month because that is chump change when it comes to having to support yourself and your kid.  You absolutely should nail him for the child support, and if he threatens to take your kid away from you (oh sorry...NOT threaten to file for full custody... ) you should file for full custody as well.  Words cannot describe how I feel about your mother. 

I agree with the bolded part especially, although she hasn't been really bad for a few days.

Yeah, I feel like a total heel, but I've got some of the paperwork I need filled out in order to start the ball rolling on all that crap. I don't think I'll ever NOT feel like a twat going through with this, so I've just gotta.

You are not a heel. You are doing exactly the right thing; you are doing what is best, right, and fair for you and your child.

[Freeky]

this whole thread makes me 



I'm right behind Nigel.  He needs to pay you more than 200 a month because that is chump change when it comes to having to support yourself and your kid.  You absolutely should nail him for the child support, and if he threatens to take your kid away from you (oh sorry...NOT threaten to file for full custody... ) you should file for full custody as well.  Words cannot describe how I feel about your mother. 

I agree with the bolded part especially, although she hasn't been really bad for a few days.

Yeah, I feel like a total heel, but I've got some of the paperwork I need filled out in order to start the ball rolling on all that crap. I don't think I'll ever NOT feel like a twat going through with this, so I've just gotta.

You are not a heel. You are doing exactly the right thing; you are doing what is best, right, and fair for you and your child.

Thanks. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Why would you feel like a heel?  It's his kid, too, and you DID try to do things the easy way.

Because he brought up good points. I am old enough to work, and being on the system for the rest of my life isn't feasible (not that I want that), and it isn't fair if it isn't 50/50 all the way. And he usually ends such conversations in statements that run along the lines of "I know you have it in you, you have such potential, and you're not living up to that potential" and so on.

It's sometimes too easy to see the other side of the argument for me.

He's just being manipulative, because if he really believed in your potential he would support your decision to go back to school. He's just trying to passive-aggressively undermine you. "Living up to your potential" would be getting the support you need to return to school.

Telling you that you have the potential to do that without help, without child support or financial aid, while working full time, is just a way for him to shirk his responsibility. Yes, women do manage to do just that. However, not only do the kids get shortchanged in that case, but also the women often end up with stress-related chronic illness or mental problems, because no one should have to work full-time AND raise a kid WHILE going to school. That's why we have support and financial aid programs! My mom worked full time and raised me while going to grad school... sure, that makes her a strong admirable woman, but she's also a fucking neglectful nutjob with fibromyalgia, and I ran wild getting into all kinds of terrible trouble. NO ONE should be put in that position, and you are right to do whatever it takes to avoid being put there.

And you ARE doing what it takes, and that is FUCKING AWESOME.

[Freeky]

Nigel, do you want some apple pie for christmas?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Why would you feel like a heel?  It's his kid, too, and you DID try to do things the easy way.

Because he brought up good points. I am old enough to work, and being on the system for the rest of my life isn't feasible (not that I want that), and it isn't fair if it isn't 50/50 all the way. And he usually ends such conversations in statements that run along the lines of "I know you have it in you, you have such potential, and you're not living up to that potential" and so on.

It's sometimes too easy to see the other side of the argument for me.

What good points?  He doesn't want to pay for his kid.

END OF STORY.

[Freeky]

What good points?  He doesn't want to pay for his kid.

END OF STORY.

I'm just having a hard time applying the manipulative bastard template onto him, is all, I guess. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nigel, do you want some apple pie for christmas?

I am off pie, but thank you! I would gladly accept anything else.