Certified Ethical Hacking guide

[Cain]

hxxp://avaxhome.ws/software/software_type/security/EHC-CEHv6.html

This class will immerse the student into an interactive environment where they will be shown how to scan, test, hack and secure their own systems. The lab intensive environment gives each student in-depth knowledge and practical experience with the current essential security systems. Students will begin by understanding how perimeter defenses work and then be lead into scanning and attacking their own networks, no real network is harmed. Students then learn how intruders escalate privileges and what steps can be taken to secure a system. Students will also learn about Intrusion Detection, Policy Creation, Social Engineering, DDoS Attacks, Buffer Overflows and Virus Creation. When a student leaves this intensive 5 day class they will have hands on understanding and experience in Ethical Hacking. This course prepares you for EC-Council Certified Ethical Hacker exam 312-50

This course will significantly benefit security officers, auditors, security professionals, site administrators, and anyone who is concerned about the integrity of the network infrastructure.

Obviously if you're interested in that sort of thing.

[Requia ☣]

Interesting, but not interesting enough to download 100+ individual files.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The company paid for me to take this class... it was terrible. The information was ancient and the examples were poor.

[Cain]

Which courses would you recommend then?  Say for someone with no computer experience beyond basic or competent knowledge of Windows?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Which courses would you recommend then?  Say for someone with no computer experience beyond basic or competent knowledge of Windows?

Hrmmmm, thats a good question.

Well, I'll try to rephrase my first thoughts...

The class teaches you what you need to do in order to pass a CEH test. The value of CEH is questionable in the industry. If you want to learn "how to hack" this material provides you with some basics... most of which are examples that have been fixed for years. If you're entirely new to the whole topic, there might be some value for you there.

I'd say the value would be similar to a class that uses WWI and WWII tactics to train our next gang of soldiers headed to Afghanistan.

Generally, I'd look for any of the SANS classes... they're usually entry level classes, but they're up to date and taught by active professionals. If you find any pirated PDF's from SANS they'll probably provide far more value to you.

[Cain]

Well I'm mostly looking at personal computer security...though I'd be lying if I said the offensive potential didn't interest me.

OK, cheers, I'll see if I can find anything.

[Requia ☣]

What about something more intermediate, but without assuming a huge amount of knowledge on security?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well I'm mostly looking at personal computer security...though I'd be lying if I said the offensive potential didn't interest me.

OK, cheers, I'll see if I can find anything.

AH! Hrmmm, I'll poke around and see if I can find something useful from a personal perspective.

What about something more intermediate, but without assuming a huge amount of knowledge on security?

SANS would fit there... it's basically for people that are in IT and are newish to InfoSec.

[Requia ☣]

Will keep an eye out for it then.

[Triple Zero]

Interesting, but not interesting enough to download 100+ individual files.

Yeah I wondered about that .. these are like 120 files hosted on these "wait XX seconds" filesharing hosts, how do you download those without spending ages at those sites?

Rapidshare was "out of free user slots", and Easy-Share gave me the first file with 20 seconds waiting time, but the second time it made me wait 500 seconds! I could probably fix that by clearing the cookie or hacking the javascript, but even then ...

[Requia ☣]

The point is to convince you to get the premium service.  The uploaders get kickbacks for any referrals they get that way.

Frankly, even if I had the premium service it would too much work.

[Brotep]

Browser plugins like SkipScreen help with some of that, as do download managers.  But it still sucks.

BitTorrent, IMO

[Triple Zero]

The point is to convince you to get the premium service.

Yeah I get that much, but ... as long as I'm pirating I'm not gonna pay for things, that stands to reason.

And Brotep, thanks I was wondering about that. I suppose that's a Firefox extension?

[Brotep]

000, yup...skipscreen.com

[Hangshai]

to get past the time lag, try getting to the site through a proxy.  You can either go through another web page or your browser (you may know how to do this, but someone earlier said with basic knowledge of windows or something.  I dont think setting up proxies are THAT basic, but not hard either.  Usually when it comes to rapidshare, I dont use it.  I get anywhere from at least 300kB-1MB data transfer.  Cable modem, and the pole is in my backyard.  Im about 100 feet from the main box in the alley.  Super fast.  I can get a 700mb dvdrip in about 10-15 minutes...  But, yeah, my suggestion would be torrents.  For faster transfers and for ebooks on how to hack.  Also, do you want to do like, wardriving and stuff, breaking into peoples interwebs and routers, or do you actually  want to hack IPs?  If its the latter I think you may want to start learning unix.  There are ALOT of little programs in UNIX that automate the hacking process nowadays..

Im no expert by any means.  Just wanted to be a hacker when I was a kid, but I could never be bothered to learn how to program.  LIke learning Latin and Algebra at the same time.  Not fun..