Glenn Beck loves the Goooooolldddd

[Elder Iptuous]

You know, in the event of an infrastructure collapse, commodities like food, clothing, and tools would probably be more useful, and therefore more valued, than sparkly metal.

Yes.  you are definitely right.
right after collapse, there wont be a whole lot of 'medium of exchange' type economy.  it will be barter for the most part.
this was shown in various collapses.  the one i can think of is argentina.
but according to the FerFal blog (a fellow that lives down there), it quickly became apparent that those that were the best off were those that had a trusted medium of exchange, that being gold.  After an initial phase of get what you need by hook or by crook, then there will have to be some form of money.
what would you be willing to accept, that you are pretty sure everyone else would accept?

Marijuana

I've heard that argument, but i think there will quickly be a glut on the market if there is a sudden crash.  everyone that wants some will be able to easily/cheaply obtain it or grow it themselves.  also, I don't think it keeps well enough to be m0ney.

[Requia ☣]

Weed is a bad option for trade goods, too easy to make your own, cigarettes and booze are the way to go.

[Elder Iptuous]

Yeah.
if it became apparent that there was going to be a total collapse imminently, then i would use some cash or gold in order to get my hands on a bunch of cigarrettes, and convert a room to a humidor in order to keep them as long as possible...
i think they would be even more golden than the booze.  people can make shitty booze in prison when they have to...
someone who smokes and drinks would be more inclined to want good smokes and shitty booze rather than good booze and nothing good to smoke...

[Template]

Manufacture capabilities would probably hold their value the best.  If you can fix the broken things, and make things that work if the gasoline runs out, and can maybe do it without petrol yourself, you win.  A steam engine is the best in collapse- proofing you can do.

[Elder Iptuous]

Manufacture capabilities would probably hold their value the best.  If you can fix the broken things, and make things that work if the gasoline runs out, and can maybe do it without petrol yourself, you win.  A steam engine is the best in collapse- proofing you can do.

what do you plan to accept for your services once your basic needs are met?

[BabylonHoruv]

Yeah.
if it became apparent that there was going to be a total collapse imminently, then i would use some cash or gold in order to get my hands on a bunch of cigarrettes, and convert a room to a humidor in order to keep them as long as possible...
i think they would be even more golden than the booze.  people can make shitty booze in prison when they have to...
someone who smokes and drinks would be more inclined to want good smokes and shitty booze rather than good booze and nothing good to smoke...

I think sacks of tobacco might be easier to store, and would offer just as high quality of smokes once rolled.

[Elder Iptuous]

Yeah.
if it became apparent that there was going to be a total collapse imminently, then i would use some cash or gold in order to get my hands on a bunch of cigarrettes, and convert a room to a humidor in order to keep them as long as possible...
i think they would be even more golden than the booze.  people can make shitty booze in prison when they have to...
someone who smokes and drinks would be more inclined to want good smokes and shitty booze rather than good booze and nothing good to smoke...

I think sacks of tobacco might be easier to store, and would offer just as high quality of smokes once rolled.

could be, but i'm not really interested in becoming a cigarrette peddler after we fall off the Olduvai cliff....
I just want to prey upon the lazy and nic'ing addicts...

guess what i'm going to require they pay me in. 

[BabylonHoruv]

Yeah.
if it became apparent that there was going to be a total collapse imminently, then i would use some cash or gold in order to get my hands on a bunch of cigarrettes, and convert a room to a humidor in order to keep them as long as possible...
i think they would be even more golden than the booze.  people can make shitty booze in prison when they have to...
someone who smokes and drinks would be more inclined to want good smokes and shitty booze rather than good booze and nothing good to smoke...

I think sacks of tobacco might be easier to store, and would offer just as high quality of smokes once rolled.

could be, but i'm not really interested in becoming a cigarrette peddler after we fall off the Olduvai cliff....
I just want to prey upon the lazy and nic'ing addicts...

guess what i'm going to require they pay me in. 

gold?

[Iason Ouabache]

Yeah.
if it became apparent that there was going to be a total collapse imminently, then i would use some cash or gold in order to get my hands on a bunch of cigarrettes, and convert a room to a humidor in order to keep them as long as possible...
i think they would be even more golden than the booze.  people can make shitty booze in prison when they have to...
someone who smokes and drinks would be more inclined to want good smokes and shitty booze rather than good booze and nothing good to smoke...

I think sacks of tobacco might be easier to store, and would offer just as high quality of smokes once rolled.

could be, but i'm not really interested in becoming a cigarrette peddler after we fall off the Olduvai cliff....
I just want to prey upon the lazy and nic'ing addicts...

guess what i'm going to require they pay me in. 

gold?

GOOOOOOLDD!!!!
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[Elder Iptuous]

[rong]

maybe i will stock up on lead that has been painted gold, instead.

[Iason Ouabache]

maybe i will stock up on lead that has been painted gold, instead.

Not a bad idea. Just stay away from any bathing Greek philosophers.

[Hangshai]

Im ready...  You can join my biker gang if you want.  I even have extra motorcycles!!!





1979 Harley Sportster 1000(the gas tank is from an '06) and a Mossberg 500.  Armageddon, here I come!!!

[rong]

currently in possession of 4 motorcycles, semi-automatic 12-gauge shotgun, a 30.06, a 50 cal muzzle loader, and the Gamo "Varmint Hunter" pellet gun outfitted with a lazer sight and flash light on the scope.

hangshai, where are you located (roughly)?

i feel inclined to direct your attention here: motorcycle geek out thread

[Requia ☣]

The big problem with gold as barter is that its not something a lot of people would have.  You can demand gold.  But since 99% of the population has some jewelry (at best) you probably aren't going to get much, forcing something more commonly available as trade.