Weirdos: Gotta Catch 'Em All! (jacked from "Today I learned" thread)

[NotPublished]

Well, one of the reasons I like these forums is because I do feel comfortable amongst you spags. I can be my faggy-ass self and not have to worry about rolling eyes or weird stares, or offending someone's delicate sensibilities. I feel a sense of contentment knowing that I am amongst fellow weirdos.

Ah That makes sense.

But I would like to say one thing - Do not feel like that other people are easily offended or put off. If they are, its their own fault. You shouldn't feel responsible for causing the offense. People usually shrug it off, or they might not even find it offending but something that could be refreshing or truly humourous. You never know - you may just meet someone who secretly is the same on the inside but they are putting up a front for the sake of not losing grace. But ask yourself, is this how you want to be in life?

I've seen some of your humour around the forums, and it makes me laugh. You shouldn't feel that you aren't a fun person, or not interesting etc - The interests you stated earlier has me damn curious for sure! What your saying, could very well end up being excuses which you made so that you can hold yourself back. Now I'm not going to say I know you personally, but it is just a thought to ponder with.

[Salty]

That is one thing, depending where you live, that makes it hard no matter how you express yourself.

If you just have that build, or that voice, or I guess that feel to you, the one that sends homophobes (or the mindlessly uncomfortable) into mouth frothing rage.

Just a swish of the hips is all it takes. I don't really identify with my sexuality very much anymore, but that's all some people leave you with, all that bounces off them like a fun-house mirror.

And then, when I dated women in the same small town, everybody lost their shit. No "friends" left, nobody to endlessly marvel at my safely stereotypically queer quirkiness, just my SO's who all found that the novelty of being with a delicate, still quite queer man to be just that, novelty.

Well fuck that. And fuck them all.

Tolerance. My. Ass.

[NotPublished]

Fuck that shit! Tolerance is a load of shit sometimes...

I know I am gay, but alot of the times I get questioned if I am just going through a phase - I get told "Oh but I don't get the vibe from you"... Now some people I know had the nerve to say "Ohh he's becomming a party Gay. I saw this from the start" - BUT THEY were the people who said I was straight. Hahahahahaa.

You know, all I wanted to do was go out clubbing and I bought some new clothes so I could look good.

But it isn't stopping me, I just lost respect for them. I don't see it as a big deal, but leave me the fuck alone!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Where you live does make a huge difference in how well whatever it is that makes you different is tolerated.

I couldn't tell you exactly what my eccentricities are (though I have grown accustomed to the "oh, you're so cute!" laugh when I am being totally serious, also sometimes when I am being a total asshole), but one that I am very aware of is that I am often silent for extended periods of time. This makes a lot of people really uncomfortable. It quite possibly stems from the chronic tonsillitis I had for about 20 years, when if I talked too much my throat would get really really raw. Or I just get overstimulated, or I need to think for a while. Whatever the reason, this means my close friends are either comfortable with extended periods of complete silence, are comfortable just talking and telling me stories so I can listen and not talk, or do both.

Sometimes I do go on talking sprees, especially with some people or at dinner parties where there is a rapid flow of ideas. But, for a lot of people, silence = discomfort and they find it awkward.

[P3nT4gR4m]

When I have nothing to say I don't say it. I sometimes wish everyone was like that. Inane chatter does my head in and makes me want to use a chainsaw in ways that directly contravene the safety instructions. 

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When I have nothing to say I don't say it. I sometimes wish everyone was like that. Inane chatter does my head in and makes me want to use a chainsaw in ways that directly contravene the safety instructions. 

i have to agree

[The Johnny]

My weirdness is a weird weirdness. I am not the type that associates with the perverts, the fetishists, the psychedelic flower children, or your run-of-the-mill freaks. No, mine is far quieter than any of those. It's just that somehow, I feel as though I don't much fit.

It was abundantly obvious to me that I was different from the rest at a young age, in various ways. While all the other kids liked going to youth group or sniffing gasoline I liked flowers. While other kids were at afterschool practice, I was reading about classical Japanese literature. And being the only gay kid at Christian school didn't bolster my feelings of belonging. I was well like by my peers, yet somehow distanced from them. People regarded me as something unique but inaccessible, someone fun to have but no fun to have as a friend. As I grew a bit older I became disappointed in people who didn't understand the delight in uncommon things, who are of course so many in this mediocre world. I became shy, knowing that no one would understand if I would share myself with them, even find it repulsive. Even today I find myself over analyzing what I say and do, afraid that if someone were to find out what I were really like, they would no longer like me.

Sexual orientation makes you intrinsecally different from the norm.

Showing how you truly are to others, puts you in a more vulnerable position, but i think it can pay off; good and bad reactions is better than no reaction (id say).

[The Johnny]

I know I am gay, but alot of the times I get questioned if I am just going through a phase

I think everyone here got questioned in this manner about our quirks at one time or another.

[The Johnny]

Where you live does make a huge difference in how well whatever it is that makes you different is tolerated.

I am often silent for extended periods of time. This makes a lot of people really uncomfortable.

Sometimes I do go on talking sprees, especially with some people or at dinner parties where there is a rapid flow of ideas. But, for a lot of people, silence = discomfort and they find it awkward.

Im kinda schizoid and introverted and i only like to talk with people im close or interested in.

To me it seems that the more time one spends talking, the less time one gets for introspection; talking and spending all the time interacting with someone else can be a defense-mechanism, so those "bad thoughts" dont emerge.

Culturally speaking, me being schizoid is a negative deviation; psycho-pathologically speaking, its not negative necessarily.

[The Johnny]

Being homosexual is bad either if its by choice or if its intrinsical: if its by choice, they are sick perverts; if its intrinsical, that means they are just freaks of nature.

People that are homosexual its because of how their triangulation within the Oedipus complex turned out (i think) which responds to randomness rather than choice by the child or parents. Its  to see the DSM-IV still listed it as a fetish/perversion (changed in the recent DSM-IVTR).

Its a monkey reaction to view it as bad, because it derives from religious ideology that states man should be with woman, it also derives from ancient nomad times when there was a lot of mortality, and a lot of babies were needed if the tribe was not to be exterminated by the animals and environment, survival through numbers. But if we arent kind to that religious ideology, and we arent ancient nomad tribes, then why should we stick to that idea? Id wish more people were gay, so we didnt have a fucking overpopulation boom, which only reduces the value of each individual to those in power, and is raping the limited resources we have.

[Richter]

My psych professors gave a great overview of "Normal".

Normal can be defined by averages, and statistics.  This is a pitfall though, as it tries to describe pathology, or normality based on a one time analysis of the occurence of a given trait in a (hopefully) representative sample.  History, especially recently, has proven that most people shouldn't be trusted with statistics.  (Lack of appropriately rigorous scientific thinking.)

They presented a definition, especially for clinical work, or normality as functionality.  Can a person, despite their unique combinations of nature and nurture, circumstance and hangups, act positively in society with others?  (Ex:  You could hallcinate a jabberwocky stalking you every day to try to eat you.  If you are OK with this, or can function because you always carry a pack of bubblegum (A little known natural jabberwock repelant.), then no worries.)

It was an important distinction, I thought.  Individual preferences, quirks, beliefs, or traits, regardless of their rarity, mean NOTHING until they become harmful to the person or others. 

[The Johnny]

My psych professors gave a great overview of "Normal".

Normal can be defined by averages, and statistics.  This is a pitfall though, as it tries to describe pathology, or normality based on a one time analysis of the occurence of a given trait in a (hopefully) representative sample.  History, especially recently, has proven that most people shouldn't be trusted with statistics.  (Lack of appropriately rigorous scientific thinking.)

They presented a definition, especially for clinical work, or normality as functionality.  Can a person, despite their unique combinations of nature and nurture, circumstance and hangups, act positively in society with others?  (Ex:  You could hallcinate a jabberwocky stalking you every day to try to eat you.  If you are OK with this, or can function because you always carry a pack of bubblegum (A little known natural jabberwock repelant.), then no worries.)

It was an important distinction, I thought.  Individual preferences, quirks, beliefs, or traits, regardless of their rarity, mean NOTHING until they become harmful to the person or others. 

Isnt that the associated in the sense of definition to "addiction"?; "Its only addiction when it impairs your functioning and wellbeing"

And yes, if "normality" was defined as "functionality/satisfaction of needs" i wouldnt have a problem with it.

[LMNO]

You guys are all really fucking weird.

[The Johnny]

You guys are all really fucking weird.

NO, YUO!

[Richter]

You guys are all really fucking weird.

Of course YOU'D say that.  You filthy statistical outlier.  

DOES THE SANCTITY OF THE BELL CURVE MEAN NOTHING TO YOU?