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Homeopathy still doesn't work

Started by Iason Ouabache, January 22, 2010, 08:53:19 PM

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Iason Ouabache

Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 24, 2010, 05:22:36 AM
Speaking as someone who does bottle their own water: It's cheaper to buy a case (or gallon) of bottled water than it is to buy empty bottles, so the stuff is *immensely* useful in that respect.
Why would you need to buy more than one empty bottle? ;)

Quote from: Alty on January 24, 2010, 05:48:24 AM
What about spring water?
Does that go through a similar process? Does it begin with the same kind of contamination?

Alty,
Will drink any damn thing but V8.
I honestly have no idea. I'm not even sure what the regulations are on what can and can't be called "spring water". There might not be any regulations.  :horrormirth:
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Triple Zero

Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 23, 2010, 11:27:50 PM
Is it really most? The stuff that I produce at work is 100% well water that has gone through reverse osmosis then has salts added. I honestly have never looked around at the numbers to see how many have their own wells like us and how many buy it off of the city.

over here, once doesn't preclude the other.

some municipalities here get their tap water from the same "well"* as popular bottled water brands.

not that I care much anyway, tap water here is delicious, clean and not hard.

[* well, it looks like a big industrial pumping factory, not some idylllic mountain stream with flowers and sparkles and such. but it's water welling up from the ground, so that counts as a well, well enough. oh well. ]
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Quote from: Triple Zero on January 24, 2010, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 23, 2010, 11:27:50 PM
Is it really most? The stuff that I produce at work is 100% well water that has gone through reverse osmosis then has salts added. I honestly have never looked around at the numbers to see how many have their own wells like us and how many buy it off of the city.

over here, once doesn't preclude the other.

some municipalities here get their tap water from the same "well"* as popular bottled water brands.

not that I care much anyway, tap water here is delicious, clean and not hard.

[* well, it looks like a big industrial pumping factory, not some idylllic mountain stream with flowers and sparkles and such. but it's water welling up from the ground, so that counts as a well, well enough. oh well. ]

Your explanation is all well and good, but, well, why should we believe your well is a well and not a well disguised corporate "well"?


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Well I guess I have to take your word for it.

Iason Ouabache

Speaking of homeopathy, Mike Adams, the douchebag behind Natural Health News, just lost his shit about a worthless web award (the Shortys).

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/01/sometimes_i_think_we_break_the.php

QuoteAdams seems to have snapped. Or maybe he was this crazy all along.

He is outraged at being bumped out of the running — not only did he get outvoted, but many of the votes for him were declared invalid, since many people just got a twitter account and posted one item, his nomination. He's lashing out with accusations of conspiracy and fraud and cheating and is planning to sue the contest. He has totally lost it over this trivial affair.

Look, guy, it's an internet award. For tweeting. Take the big picture and recognize that as far as significance goes, it's like finding an especially large and fluffy bit of belly button lint.

Of course, he is a homeopath. Maybe to him, a twitter award is like an infinitely diluted Nobel Prize, and is especially potent.

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Iason Ouabache

Oh yeah, forgot to link to him throwing a shit fit:

http://www.naturalnews.com/028006_Shorty_Awards_vote_fraud.html

QuoteNaturalNews has learned that the Shorty Awards are being operated fraudulently and that the voting results are fixed to exclude candidates who the editors at the Shorty Awards don't want to win. In addition, the Shorty Awards, by refusing to police its own contests, actually encourages false and defamatory campaigning while ignoring legitimate complaints of vote fraud.

The Shorty Awards, in short, has been revealed as wholly discredited...


It wasn't really surprising to see the vaccine quacks engaging in their false accusations, of course: Lying and cheating is par for the course for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industries. Their supporters apparently reflect that same lack of ethical behavior. They will apparently do anything to win, even if it means engaging in widespread false accusations and trying to get natural health people removed from the contest altogether.

The irony is that he was disqualified because a bunch of his mindless followers were setting up dummy Twitter accounts just so they could vote for him. That, of course, is against the rules and Shortys it very clear that they will delete all dummy votes.   

Adams then went further and wrote a hilarious hit piece against every single Skeptic ever.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028012_skeptics_medicine.html

I'm not going to quote that one. Go there yourself and see how hilarious it is. I would debunk it but I can't stop laughing long enough.
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Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 25, 2010, 12:05:32 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to link to him throwing a shit fit:

http://www.naturalnews.com/028006_Shorty_Awards_vote_fraud.html

QuoteNaturalNews has learned that the Shorty Awards are being operated fraudulently and that the voting results are fixed to exclude candidates who the editors at the Shorty Awards don't want to win. In addition, the Shorty Awards, by refusing to police its own contests, actually encourages false and defamatory campaigning while ignoring legitimate complaints of vote fraud.

The Shorty Awards, in short, has been revealed as wholly discredited...


It wasn't really surprising to see the vaccine quacks engaging in their false accusations, of course: Lying and cheating is par for the course for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industries. Their supporters apparently reflect that same lack of ethical behavior. They will apparently do anything to win, even if it means engaging in widespread false accusations and trying to get natural health people removed from the contest altogether.

The irony is that he was disqualified because a bunch of his mindless followers were setting up dummy Twitter accounts just so they could vote for him. That, of course, is against the rules and Shortys it very clear that they will delete all dummy votes.   

Adams then went further and wrote a hilarious hit piece against every single Skeptic ever.

http://www.naturalnews.com/028012_skeptics_medicine.html

I'm not going to quote that one. Go there yourself and see how hilarious it is. I would debunk it but I can't stop laughing long enough.
Oh wow!
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he has eleven points and this:
Quote• Skeptics believe that there is no such thing as human consciousness. They do not believe in the mind; only in the physical brain. In fact, skeptics believe that they themselves are mindless automatons who have no free will, no soul and no consciousness whatsoever.
is the best one.


Quote• Skeptics believe that DEAD foods have exactly the same nutritional properties as LIVING foods (hilarious!).
Is he opposed to killing the cow before eating it?
I'm confused.
how does that work?
are you supposed to swallow the cow whole?
or is it ok if the cow-bit dies after youve started eating it.
so only the first bite has to be off a live cow.
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Quote• Skeptics believe that DEAD foods have exactly the same nutritional properties as LIVING foods (hilarious!).
Is he opposed to killing the cow before eating it?
I'm confused.
how does that work?
are you supposed to swallow the cow whole?
or is it ok if the cow-bit dies after youve started eating it.
so only the first bite has to be off a live cow.
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I was thinking the same thing, adn with the same example. WTF?

Iason Ouabache

I'm not exactly sure what he means by "living food" vs. "dead food". It all ends up dead once it's in your body. Searching on his site didn't bring up much either.  Did find this though:

QuoteCould Patrick Swayze have saved his own life with natural medicine? Absolutely. Without question. Even late-stage pancreatic cancer can be reversed (yes, reversed) with full-on naturopathic treatments involving Chinese herbal medicine, deep body detoxification that includes sweat saunas and colon cleansing, radical changes in diet from "dead" foods to "live" foods, a healthy dose of vitamin D and the daily consumption of raw anti-cancer living juices made from fresh, organic produce like cabbage, broccoli and garlic.

Yeah, that's the level of stupid you are dealing with here. He thinks that chemotherapy doesn't work and that diet will somehow cure all cancer.
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Salty

Is he talking about cooked food vs raw?
I've read about that, done it too, for six months before I NEEDED bread. Then steak.

The idea is anything cooked above 109 F is dead to your body because your body would be dead at that temp. So there's nothing in cooked food that can react to your body as well as food below your temperature. blah blah enzymes. And Quantum. Lots of Quantum.


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How about now?   Is it working yet?

Requia ☣

Quote from: Iason Ouabache on January 24, 2010, 06:07:16 AM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on January 24, 2010, 05:22:36 AM
Speaking as someone who does bottle their own water: It's cheaper to buy a case (or gallon) of bottled water than it is to buy empty bottles, so the stuff is *immensely* useful in that respect.
Why would you need to buy more than one empty bottle? ;)


I didn't want to walk to the well 3 times a day.  The stuff out of my tap was contaminated for a good long while, Cooking and drinking all had to be done out of a bottle.
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What the fuck?  Is it just me or does the phrase "skeptics believe" seem like something of an oxymoron?

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Quote from: Felix on January 25, 2010, 07:29:22 PM
What the fuck?  Is it just me or does the phrase "skeptics believe" seem like something of an oxymoron?

It's a "balanced" way to say it, Felix.

Just like on the "History" channel, it's "Scientists believe".
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