The Eris Look

[the last yatto]

Funny that they describe her in the PD as clutching a dagger to her bosom, but I've not found a single image of her in this guise.

sinbad: legend of the seven seas, she carries a dagger,


talks about getting jiggly with chaos while having a bubblebath

and plots from above the earth...

[the last yatto]

so the imaginary between Minerva and Bellona...
are similar with only difference begin she carries a dagger?


and I thought Medusa was a servant of Athena until Poseidon raped her while she was alone in the temple

[hooplala]

In some legends, yes.  In others, not so much.

[Cain]

You mentioned a swan link in the orig post about Attica, leeme check...

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=14098.0



Swans surrounding the central image on the plate from Delos.


Oh, and it seems you brought up the Graiai while Hugh was plaing hoity-toity-know-it-all:

That psychotic crone is actually an aspect of the Wiccan Goddess, unless it is Hekate, unless it is Athena in menopause, unless it is....well take your pick. I tend to think that while Eris may be into the all sweet and nice tickles for those upon whom that approach may work, She is also the deity who provoked Yahweh to be so evil in the Old Testament. It is good to keep this perspective. (The same sweet wind that cools you on a hot day, is the wind that can blow a massive storm which destroys your entire livelihood.)

BAM! In comes Greek geek knowledge.  Enyo/Eris was considered one of the  Graiai, or the the three Gray Sisters, who were apparently beautiful. They were described as "fair-faced and swan-like" but they's had gray hair from the day they were born and they shared one eye and one tooth, but they lost even that when Perseus stole their eye and later threw it in a lake.

Also ""[Depicted on the chest of Cypselus at Olympia] Aias is fighting a duel with Hektor [in the Trojan War], according to the challenge, and between the pair stands Eris in the form of a most repulsive woman. Another figure of Eris is in the sanctuary of Ephesian Artemis; Kalliphon of Samos included it in his picture of the battle at the ships of the Greeks." -Pausanias, Guide to Greece
5.19.1

However, I tend to think she was probably in good shape as she was hauling dead bodies around the battlefield of Troy and she was said (in Dionysiaca) to look like Rheia, the loverattle goddess.



Rather like the above, only probably with a nose and alot of armour, covered in blood.

That doesn't sound like me at all.  That sounds like someone who actually did research.

I should really keep notes of things like this, or else I just forget it all.  Thanks.

[President Television]

From this page:

http://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Eris.html

Pretty fucking cool.

I love the look on her face on this one. She does not give a shit at all.

[Dimocritus]

I noticed one thing for sure, which is that Eris is DUSKY and has CURLY HAIR!

And kind of a big nose.

I was also interested to note that the contents of Pandora's Box were Eris' children.

It wasn't a box, it was a jar. And I thought it was empty. (Shameless self-promotion? Mebbe...)

Regardless, this thread is awesome.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I noticed one thing for sure, which is that Eris is DUSKY and has CURLY HAIR!

And kind of a big nose.

I was also interested to note that the contents of Pandora's Box were Eris' children.

It wasn't a box, it was a jar. And I thought it was empty. (Shameless self-promotion? Mebbe...)

Regardless, this thread is awesome.

It was a container, presumably round, made out of clay, with a lid. I have a salt box which is round and made out of wood, with a lid. Have you ever wondered why we call it "canning" when rather than putting food into cans, we put it into glass jars? For whatever reason, rather than calling it "Pandora's Can" which is the obvious and most funny interpretation, the most common interpretation is to refer to that container as a box.

You know what's funny is there's another container we often refer to as a box, and it doesn't even have a LID. Plus, it's made out of meat. What an oddly versatile concept, this "box".

[Dimocritus]

I noticed one thing for sure, which is that Eris is DUSKY and has CURLY HAIR!

And kind of a big nose.

I was also interested to note that the contents of Pandora's Box were Eris' children.

It wasn't a box, it was a jar. And I thought it was empty. (Shameless self-promotion? Mebbe...)

Regardless, this thread is awesome.

It was a container, presumably round, made out of clay, with a lid. I have a salt box which is round and made out of wood, with a lid. Have you ever wondered why we call it "canning" when rather than putting food into cans, we put it into glass jars? For whatever reason, rather than calling it "Pandora's Can" which is the obvious and most funny interpretation, the most common interpretation is to refer to that container as a box.

You know what's funny is there's another container we often refer to as a box, and it doesn't even have a LID. Plus, it's made out of meat. What an oddly versatile concept, this "box".

Point.

mmmm... meatbox...

[Shai Hulud]

Hey, this thread is really great!  Excellent thoughts all around.

I agree with what Nigel and Hoopla have been saying, I think I've been looking at the PD Eris as a good natured, merry prankster and there is really nothing there to indicate she's supposed to be nice or mean well.  She's just a vindictive bitch goddess.

And that's some heavy research that Cain and Telarus did, it's making for some very stimulating reading   That raises some good points as to the real nature of Eris as she was authentically worshipped by the Greeks, before the Roman civil religion homogenized and sanitized her.  I'm reading through that theoi.com article right now, good site!

And Cram's post was a big 

We should distill some of the great factual info here into and article for 23AE.

[MMIX]

[snip]
We should distill some of the great factual info here into and article for 23AE http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hellenismos-L/

because theres a whole bunch of weirdos there who would really get off on a load of shit about some greek goddess - you never know they might even be dumb enough to, you know, worship her . . . You all seem to be having such fun ITT digging for bits of info about some mythical ancient greek myth who just happens to share a name with a concept floated by some contemporary guys who had some interesting notions about living in contemporary society. Anyway long story short. You have convinced me - I am going to change my worldview and move on in my spiritual practice. I can't believe I was so mistaken, for decades, so I too have been looking for a new way to view Eris:- http://erisfly.en.ec21.com/


deep religio-social insight . . .  it was the Toxic Blobs that really touched my soul

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I don't know if you actually read the PD, but the surprising thing to me was that the authors actually seem very familiar with classical Eris. They didn't make her up at all; they just claimed that the Greeks had been mistaken in their perception, and re-styled her for their own era.

Works for me.

[rygD]

I recall reading another little thing Cain put together regarding classical information he pieced together that I very much enjoyed reading.  Let me see if I can find it for those who are interested.

[rygD]

Seems it was already bumped...

[MMIX]

I don't know if you actually read the PD, but the surprising thing to me was that the authors actually seem very familiar with classical Eris. They didn't make her up at all; they just claimed that the Greeks had been mistaken in their perception, and re-styled her for their own era.

Works for me.

Works for me too, has done ever since I read the PD. And just as soon as I get time slipped back to ancient greece I will reconsider my relationship to Eris but probably not until then . . .

[the last yatto]