Yet another healthcare topic

[Doktor Howl]

It's this kind of conversation that made me miss this place.

Guido?

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm just saying I haven't seen many forums with conversations quite like this and I missed it when I left. That's all.

Judge Crater?

[Remington]

Even more incentive to pass some sort of healthcare bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

[Jenne]

Even more incentive to pass some sort of healthcare bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

Hells yes.  Go Rushbo gtfo!

[Doktor Howl]

Even more incentive to pass some sort of healthcare bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

Hells yes.  Go Rushbo gtfo!

Does Costa Rica have universal health care, by any chance?

[Jenne]

Even more incentive to pass some sort of healthcare bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

Hells yes.  Go Rushbo gtfo!

Does Costa Rica have universal health care, by any chance?

Have no idea...would be worth looking into, though. 

[whatnotery]

Even more incentive to pass some sort of healthcare bill:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/limbaugh-ill-leave-us-if_n_491536.html

Hells yes.  Go Rushbo gtfo!

Does Costa Rica have universal health care, by any chance?

Have no idea...would be worth looking into, though.  

they do have socialised healthcare from what I know   

[Jenne]

... that's fuckin' hilarious if that's true...

[Cain]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/09/markos-moulitsas-to-kucin_n_492675.html

This is amusing.  Daily Kos' founder is threatening a primary challenge against Kucinich if he doesn't vote for healthcare "reform".  A civil war on the left of the party would no doubt please the White House and the Centrists in Congress and besides, healthcare "reform" currently looks to be a terrible proposition (I think affordable healthcare is good, but giveaways to the insurance companies who helped bankroll the Democrats in 06 and Obama in 08, backed up with threats of fines, during an economic recession where one of the key problems is job loss, to be a rather poor way of going about it, if not entirely counterproductive).

Anyway, look out for the up and coming civil war.  It's been threatening to break out for a while now, between pro-Obama and anti-Obama progressive Democrat factions.  This might just help it spill over.

[LMNO]

How the hell did the conservatives become so good at shaping the argument, while liberals have their thumbs in their asses?

The right wing has basically taken the public opinion that "the Dem's bill sucks because it doesn't actually reform health care" and turned it into "no one in the US wants to reform health care."

The popularity of the bill hasn't dropped because people like the system as it currently is, it's dropped because, holy shit, when did this turn from a bill about health care to a bill about insurance companies?

But the libs can't seem to grasp the ability to control the terms of the debate, and end up defending positions just as ridiculous as the cons.

[Cain]

It always helps to remember the Dems are essentially two parties: the left-leaning Dems ("progressives") and the centrist Dems ("blue dogs") and each have their own constituencies and backers to pander to.  They will never get on message or have the propaganda discipline of the GOP for precisely this reason.  And since they are always aiming for different goals, they will by default put the GOP in the Kingmaker position, even though they were soundly thrashed in the elections.

Thus, Democrats of all stripes are pwnt.

[Cramulus]

I heard Obama talking about that a while back. Somebody had asked him why the Dem majority couldn't get anything done, and he basically said just that. The Conservatives are like one big united family. They have their differences, but they support each other. Whereas the dem camp is like a big family that fights all the time. There's a whole spectrum of ideas under the "democrat" heading, and not all of them work together.

[East Coast Hustle]

nevbermind all of that, I'd be SO FUCKING STOKED if someone put that turd burglar Kucinich out of a job (and out of the public eye forever).

[LMNO]

His smoking hot wife can stay in the public spotlight, however.

[East Coast Hustle]

Meh, she's attractive, but she's nothing special. I think she just looks hotter because you almost always only see her next to him.

[Remington]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilG7PCV448&feature=player_embedded

^^ Major lulz ^^