Free Will

[Doktor Howl]

"Like, lets sit around getting high and fap about completely unecessary metaphysical concepts."

This is my hobby.

It beats scrapbooking.

You're OK by me, Enki

But it's also one of three reasons that he will never, ever kiss a girl.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

"Like, lets sit around getting high and fap about completely unecessary metaphysical concepts."

This is my hobby.

It beats scrapbooking.

You're OK by me, Enki

But it's also one of three reasons that he will never, ever kiss a girl.

I didn't know that girls were immune to fapping about completely unnecessary metaphysical concepts.

[Doktor Howl]

"Like, lets sit around getting high and fap about completely unecessary metaphysical concepts."

This is my hobby.

It beats scrapbooking.

You're OK by me, Enki

But it's also one of three reasons that he will never, ever kiss a girl.

I didn't know that girls were immune to fapping about completely unnecessary metaphysical concepts.

Naw, like I said, it's only one of three reasons.  The others are:

2.  His grooming/dress choices.

3.  His compulsive geekery.  He simply HAS to interject completely unrelated shit into any conversation.  Doesn't fly well with the womens.

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"Like, lets sit around getting high and fap about completely unecessary metaphysical concepts."

This is my hobby.

It beats scrapbooking.

You're OK by me, Enki

But it's also one of three reasons that he will never, ever kiss a girl.

I didn't know that girls were immune to fapping about completely unnecessary metaphysical concepts.

Naw, like I said, it's only one of three reasons.  The others are:

2.  His grooming/dress choices.

3.  His compulsive geekery.  He simply HAS to interject completely unrelated shit into any conversation.  Doesn't fly well with the womens.

Well, not any that I'm attracted to.

However, there are plenty of hippie womens that would be a perfect fit.

[Doktor Howl]

"Like, lets sit around getting high and fap about completely unecessary metaphysical concepts."

This is my hobby.

It beats scrapbooking.

You're OK by me, Enki

But it's also one of three reasons that he will never, ever kiss a girl.

I didn't know that girls were immune to fapping about completely unnecessary metaphysical concepts.

Naw, like I said, it's only one of three reasons.  The others are:

2.  His grooming/dress choices.

3.  His compulsive geekery.  He simply HAS to interject completely unrelated shit into any conversation.  Doesn't fly well with the womens.

Well, not any that I'm attracted to.

However, there are plenty of hippie womens that would be a perfect fit.

He dresses "filthy hippie", has hair that's "early street person", and is a tech geek.  The hippies don't want him because of the tech, and the tech girls...there are none.  Not that kind, anyway.

[Elder Iptuous]

yer wrong, Dok.
in the halls of my engineering building at university, you could catch a glimpse of them every so often.  they're huddled in dark crevasses of the CSE labs.
they'd be horrible to the likes of you.
but they actually do have romance in strange ways reminiscent of a Lovecraft story.
and Enki could find one of these creatures some day.
and BREED!

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Enki gets hitched to some girl and she joins the board, pushing you over the edge, into the abyss!

[Faust]

WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS FUCKING USELESS MEANINGLESS CONCEPT??

No one in this thread has seriously explained to me the concept of free will and why it is meaningful. IT DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING! IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE!

Free will is an unobtainable goal. It is overcoming compelling nature, not to do the opposite but to allow yourself the choice in the matter. No one is a full master of their own mind and subconscious factors will always bias or sway a person, but striving to improve upon that is no different then trying to better yourself.

[Faust]

WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS FUCKING USELESS MEANINGLESS CONCEPT??

No one in this thread has seriously explained to me the concept of free will and why it is meaningful. IT DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING! IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE!

the presence or absence of free will impacts the degree of responsibility we have for all this

No, no it doesn't.

In what sense? In that a person isn't responsible for an action at all unless they had some choice to perform or not perform that action?

[Doktor Howl]

yer wrong, Dok.
in the halls of my engineering building at university, you could catch a glimpse of them every so often.  they're huddled in dark crevasses of the CSE labs.
they'd be horrible to the likes of you.
but they actually do have romance in strange ways reminiscent of a Lovecraft story.
and Enki could find one of these creatures some day.
and BREED!

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Enki gets hitched to some girl and she joins the board, pushing you over the edge, into the abyss!

Cybersex doesn't count.

Also, this thread killed my dog.

[Jasper]

Faust,

You seem to have bundled your argument with the assumption that life is fair.

If your body, for whatever reason, has no will of its own, and kills people, "you" are responsible.  Because it doesn't matter what you intend to do, what matters is what you end up doing anyway.

[Doktor Howl]

Faust,

You seem to have bundled your argument with the assumption that life is fair.

If your body, for whatever reason, has no will of its own, and kills people, "you" are responsible.  Because it doesn't matter what you intend to do, what matters is what you end up doing anyway.

This thread gave my children rickets.

[Faust]

Faust,

You seem to have bundled your argument with the assumption that life is fair.

If your body, for whatever reason, has no will of its own, and kills people, "you" are responsible.  Because it doesn't matter what you intend to do, what matters is what you end up doing anyway.

Ok but the physical act of killing is separate from responsibility weightings which are subjective. And that's where will and intent generally come in.

[Doktor Howl]

Okay, everyone that thinks we don't have free will, sound off.

[Faust]

Okay, everyone that thinks we don't have free will, sound off.

I don't think we have complete free will, why do you ask?

[NotPublished]

I DONT OPERATE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS YOU PUNY TURDS
I SHIT YOU ALL FOR BREAKFAST.

I am operated by a complex series of Bladders that Deflate and/or Reflate when I wish to make a decision.

Me and my superior liquids shall pass judgement onto your hardwire circuitry brain.