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Started by Kai, April 11, 2010, 06:39:28 PM

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Kai

Consider this:

The average life span in the United States is around 77 years. Now, this sometimes seems like an immense amount of time, given the way the seasons seem to pass, so slowly.

However, multiply that by 365 and you get the number of days, roughly 29 thousand. Given that I've lived around 24.5 years, I've passed through around 8950 days. And I have around 20 thousand days left. Thats all.


20 thousand days....thats it? Thats all? It makes this life feel that much shorter. And every day that passes where I am depressed or uninspired is a day wasted.

FOR FUCKS SAKE, the universe has been kind or serendipitous to grant me, the emergent property of some 100 billion neurons, 50 trillion cells, and 7 octillion atoms, 8.4 kj/day, not only life but a mind to consider the present moment, the history of this present moment, and my own place in it and the future. Every day where I am not inspired, where I am not learning and growing, helping and inspiring others, enjoying the wonders of this universe and having deep pleasure in just being alive, those are days wasted.

No more wasted days. No more. Enough. I only have 20 thousand left.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

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Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Thurnez Isa

you forgot to subtract the time one spends fapping...
now you only have 10 thousands  :eek:



other then that, it was a good read
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Kai

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 11, 2010, 09:59:13 PM
you forgot to subtract the time one spends fapping...
now you only have 10 thousands  :eek:



other then that, it was a good read

Maybe YOU spend half your days fapping.

On the other hand, why does fapping subtract?
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

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Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

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I don't consider mild/moderate depression to be a waste.

Severe depression yes, but I'm pretty sure mild/moderate depression is just your brain on overdrive to help you solve your problems faster.

Did you know that part of the chemical shift in a depressed brain actually protects it while it's overclocked?

And that a large amount of people have measurably improved analytical skills when they're depressed?

Don't sell yourself short, a mild/moderately depressed brain is a remarkable thing.
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Thurnez Isa

Quote from: Kai on April 11, 2010, 10:49:32 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on April 11, 2010, 09:59:13 PM
you forgot to subtract the time one spends fapping...
now you only have 10 thousands  :eek:



other then that, it was a good read

Maybe YOU spend half your days fapping.

On the other hand, why does fapping subtract?

I thought I was giving a conservative estimate
:cry:
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Kai

Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 11, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
I don't consider mild/moderate depression to be a waste.

Severe depression yes, but I'm pretty sure mild/moderate depression is just your brain on overdrive to help you solve your problems faster.

Did you know that part of the chemical shift in a depressed brain actually protects it while it's overclocked?

And that a large amount of people have measurably improved analytical skills when they're depressed?

Don't sell yourself short, a mild/moderately depressed brain is a remarkable thing.

No.

See, I'm not going for being super successful, or brilliant, or genius, or savior, whatever the hell those are.

I'm going for, if I'm not living the hell out of life, if I'm not appreciating, if I'm not aware, then I'm fucking wasting it. Might as well be in a coma.


Also, I wish I could punch you over the Internet.
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Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

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Quote from: Kai on April 11, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 11, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
I don't consider mild/moderate depression to be a waste.

Severe depression yes, but I'm pretty sure mild/moderate depression is just your brain on overdrive to help you solve your problems faster.

Did you know that part of the chemical shift in a depressed brain actually protects it while it's overclocked?

And that a large amount of people have measurably improved analytical skills when they're depressed?

Don't sell yourself short, a mild/moderately depressed brain is a remarkable thing.

No.

See, I'm not going for being super successful, or brilliant, or genius, or savior, whatever the hell those are.

I'm going for, if I'm not living the hell out of life, if I'm not appreciating, if I'm not aware, then I'm fucking wasting it. Might as well be in a coma.


Also, I wish I could punch you over the Internet.

Sorry if I stepped on your toes. Why exactly do you want to punch me through the interbutts?



Your OP just sounded to me like bliss ninnies who eschew any sort of "negative" mood. The numbers are interesting but I think your premises are flawed.

Downtime is important for ideas to stew, even if on the surface of things it just looks like depression or lack of inspiration.

Depression ≠ lack of growth and learning, it's also connected with deep growth and learning, unless it's quite severe. There's a lot of new evidence coming out to support this.

Happiness ≠ growth and learning, it's also connected to being comfortably wedged in a worldview and ignoring whatever challenges it.
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Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 12, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
Depression ≠ lack of growth and learning, it's also connected with deep growth and learning, unless it's quite severe. There's a lot of new evidence coming out to support this.

Happiness ≠ growth and learning, it's also connected to being comfortably wedged in a worldview and ignoring whatever challenges it.

:cn:
The Jerk On Bike rolled his eyes and tossed the waffle back over his shoulder--before it struck the ground, a stout, disconcertingly monkey-like dog sprang into the air and snatched it, and began to masticate it--literally--for the sound it made was like a homonculus squatting on the floor muttering "masticate masticate masticate".

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Quote from: BADGE OF HONOR on April 12, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 12, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
Depression ≠ lack of growth and learning, it's also connected with deep growth and learning, unless it's quite severe. There's a lot of new evidence coming out to support this.

Happiness ≠ growth and learning, it's also connected to being comfortably wedged in a worldview and ignoring whatever challenges it.

:cn:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/12/the-science-of-success/7761/

http://www.apa.org/monitor/apr05/realism.aspx

edit: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary
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Roaring Biscuit!

I think what is probably most important is being able to look back and say "Yeah, I'm glad I bothered."  Even with the depressing bits etc.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 12, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
Your OP just sounded to me like bliss ninnies who eschew any sort of "negative" mood. The numbers are interesting but I think your premises are flawed.

Downtime is important for ideas to stew, even if on the surface of things it just looks like depression or lack of inspiration.

Yes that may be true. But you are missing the point of his post entirely. Hence the desire for punching.

Sure you can look back at "downtime" and say it was important for new ideas to stew.

But you can ALSO look back and say "NO MORE! I WILL EAT THE FUCK OUT OF THAT CHEESEBURGER NOW!! AND TOMORROW TOO!".

The two are not mutually exclusive.
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

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Kai

Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 12, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
Quote from: Kai on April 11, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on April 11, 2010, 11:07:00 PM
I don't consider mild/moderate depression to be a waste.

Severe depression yes, but I'm pretty sure mild/moderate depression is just your brain on overdrive to help you solve your problems faster.

Did you know that part of the chemical shift in a depressed brain actually protects it while it's overclocked?

And that a large amount of people have measurably improved analytical skills when they're depressed?

Don't sell yourself short, a mild/moderately depressed brain is a remarkable thing.

No.

See, I'm not going for being super successful, or brilliant, or genius, or savior, whatever the hell those are.

I'm going for, if I'm not living the hell out of life, if I'm not appreciating, if I'm not aware, then I'm fucking wasting it. Might as well be in a coma.


Also, I wish I could punch you over the Internet.

Sorry if I stepped on your toes. Why exactly do you want to punch me through the interbutts?



Your OP just sounded to me like bliss ninnies who eschew any sort of "negative" mood. The numbers are interesting but I think your premises are flawed.

Downtime is important for ideas to stew, even if on the surface of things it just looks like depression or lack of inspiration.

Depression ≠ lack of growth and learning, it's also connected with deep growth and learning, unless it's quite severe. There's a lot of new evidence coming out to support this.

Happiness ≠ growth and learning, it's also connected to being comfortably wedged in a worldview and ignoring whatever challenges it.

"It's about APPRECIATION. You don't have to like it to appreciate it."

Also, me, a bliss ninny? O.o
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

h-town

If everyone manages to somehow live the hell out of life then who cleans all the toilets?

LMNO

Don't just clean that toilet, CLEAN THE HELL OUT OF IT!

See how easy that is?

Whatever you're doing, or "have" to do, TAKE IT TO THE FUCKING WALL!

Be in the moment, love what you're doing, whatever it is.

h-town

I don't know, sounds like a placebo  :roll: