Lewis Carroll: WOMAN

[Faust]

Wasn't he the one who has gang raped by four boys in his boarding school? Not that that necessarily has any impact on him being a paedophile or not.

a surprising number of literary figures were gangbang victims

Between that and the serial killer targeting bad fiction writers such as Robert jordan & David Gemmell just as they get to the final book in their series, writers really have it hard.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Wasn't he the one who has gang raped by four boys in his boarding school? Not that that necessarily has any impact on him being a paedophile or not.

He did hate boarding school and vaguely alluded to being bothered by "nighttime disturbances", which many have speculated were some kind of sexual abuse.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

I can't imagine being in an all-boys boarding school during that time could have been fun no matter whether there was sexual abuse.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I can't imagine being in an all-boys boarding school during that time could have been fun no matter whether there was sexual abuse.

Eeek, I know. But people have really fixated on Lewis Carroll over the years, ascribing all kinds of weird motivations/experiences to him which there isn't any evidence of really. I think it's because of the holy shit WHOA TRIPPY nature of Alice In Wonderland; they just didn't get it, and, as is normal for our species, felt the need to believe him a deviant freak because the idea that a normal person could produce a piece of writing that out there really messes with our minds.

[Cramulus]

you have to admit though, the imagery in his fiction is consistent with the profile of a forced figging victim.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

you have to admit though, the imagery in his fiction is consistent with the profile of a forced figging victim.

[notathing]

Once you detect this custom of renaming yourself to obfuscate your identity, you start to see it everywhere...


zerogravitytits   george washington was an obsessive washer
zerogravitytits   also, a hemp smoker
Idem   jane austen is really a city

JAMES GARFIELD IS REALLY A CAT

Idem   abe lincoln is really a toy
Payne   GEORGE BUSH IS REALLY AN UNTRIMMED PUBIC HAIRS

i love this  


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[Lies]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

No evidence huh? At all? huh?



Hmm.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

No evidence huh? At all? huh?



Hmm.

Obvious shoop is obvious.

[Lies]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

No evidence huh? At all? huh?



Hmm.

Obvious shoop is obvious.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that, it will make the pain of the horrible truth easier to handle.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1142/was-lewis-carroll-a-perv

In 1880 Dodgson gave up photography forever. Too much heat? Nobody knows, although around the same time he got flak for kissing one of his girl friends. At any rate the nude photos and plates were returned to the families of the subjects or destroyed on his death. It was long thought that none survived.

But then four turned up. For this we can thank Morton Cohen, who unearthed the photos and published them in his Lewis Carroll: A Biography (1995). One is of a little girl named Evelyn Hatch in a pose that, were Evelyn older or Cecil weirder, would be seductive. As it is I can imagine Evelyn's parents thinking: that Rev. Dodgson, he is one amusing fellow. But he'd better keep his mitts to himself.

[the last yatto]

dont some people even believe the Shroud of Turin  is really just a early photocopy of someone's face

[Triple Zero]

Wasn't he the one who has gang raped by four boys in his boarding school? Not that that necessarily has any impact on him being a paedophile or not.

a surprising number of literary figures were gangbang victims

It used to be part of the curriculum, a prerequisite for literacy. Called "dipping the quill". It was in fact an early 20th century Russian behavioural scientist named P. Komstokdan conducting controversial experiments involving mental patients and, for some reason, horses, who demonstrated the lack of educational value of this time-worn practice.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

And Lewis Carroll (or Carol Lewis) was also, Jack the Ripper.According the the well respected Spag/Ripperologist* Richard Wallace, he hid anagrams proving that Carroll admitted to being the 'orrible serial killer. Strong evidence like:

'So she wondered away, through the wood, carrying the ugly little thing with her. And a great job it was to keep hold of it, it wriggled about so. But at last she found out that the proper way was to keep tight hold of itself foot and its right ear'.  - Nursery Alice

When correctly translated is obviously:

'She wriggled about so! But at last Dodgson and Bayne found a way to keep hold of the fat little whore. I got a tight hold of her and slit her throat, left ear to right. It was tough, wet, disgusting, too. So weary of it, they threw up - jack the Ripper.'

*

[hooplala]

you have to admit though, the imagery in his fiction is consistent with the profile of a forced figging victim.

True, look what it did to Aini.   

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

How does him being a pedophile fit into this?

I really don't think he was. There is, as many people have pointed out, no evidence that he molested or was even sexually attracted to little girls, and some evidence that his "indiscretions" tended to be adulterous, which would have been a great deal more scandalous at the time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/books/the-close-reader-what-was-on-lewis-carroll-s-mind.html?pagewanted=1

No evidence huh? At all? huh?



Hmm.

Obvious shoop is obvious.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that, it will make the pain of the horrible truth easier to handle.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1142/was-lewis-carroll-a-perv

In 1880 Dodgson gave up photography forever. Too much heat? Nobody knows, although around the same time he got flak for kissing one of his girl friends. At any rate the nude photos and plates were returned to the families of the subjects or destroyed on his death. It was long thought that none survived.

But then four turned up. For this we can thank Morton Cohen, who unearthed the photos and published them in his Lewis Carroll: A Biography (1995). One is of a little girl named Evelyn Hatch in a pose that, were Evelyn older or Cecil weirder, would be seductive. As it is I can imagine Evelyn's parents thinking: that Rev. Dodgson, he is one amusing fellow. But he'd better keep his mitts to himself.

Lys, I can't tell if you're playing straight man, or if you're serious. Carroll's nudes of little girls are well-known, there are are scholarly analyses of him and his work that are far more educational (and accurate) than some guy named Cecil on a website.

Also,



Duh.