I squee

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I would argue that their principal problem is not overpopulation, but size.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I would argue that their principle problem is not overpopulation, but size.

what? You saying Chinese people are small?...


...Okay, who the fuck deleted the "that's racist" smiley? This post needs it to be even remotely funny 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

China, overall, is 78 on the list of population density. Density is not the problem, or Holland would be a 3rd world country.

I will agree on the quality of their products. I will also say that the main reason for this is a ridiculous level of inexperience with manufacturing many of the products (Some Chinese products are items that the Chinese have been superb at for centuries) and also a poverty in the factories.

The main problem, which is also the reason that the USSR didn't last, and why the USA won't last, is that the larger an area is, with a fairly dense population, is that regulating an enormous area with an enormous population is impossible.

[Elder Iptuous]

...Okay, who the fuck deleted the "that's racist" smiley? This post needs it to be even remotely funny 

wouldn't this thread need a "that's lacist" smiley?

[Cain]

As far as I can see, organized crime controls everything outside of Beijing. Usually these guys are connected with the security services, and in return for "keeping the peace" are allowed to break as many other laws as they feel like.  Unless they get too out of hand, in which case someone comes down from the Central Office and puts their head on a spike.  But in the Chinese provinces, prostitution, protection rackets and drugs are rife, I don't see why copyright infringement would be any different.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also, I have to say that there is horrormirthiness in the fact that US-based corporations gave away our entire manufacturing base to China, in the name of profits. The same profits that many of our US houses now sit on, upside-down after a "bailout" that came from our pockets but benefited none of us.

There is a good reason I am considering switching trades from arts, which this country could give a fuck about, to bartending, where my main income will be more difficult to track. I have everything I ever wanted. Got my house, kids, lifestyle. My mission now is to pay the least taxes possible, because I live with a government that exists to take middle-class people in other countries back to the third world.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Just before we got out of manufacturing there was talk of opening a factory in China. I'm kinda glad we didn't. At least in Morocco you got the impression that your exploitatively small wages were at least helping these people out. The Chinese factories kept their workers like fucking battery hens.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

As far as I can see, organized crime controls everything outside of Beijing. Usually these guys are connected with the security services, and in return for "keeping the peace" are allowed to break as many other laws as they feel like.  Unless they get too out of hand, in which case someone comes down from the Central Office and puts their head on a spike.  But in the Chinese provinces, prostitution, protection rackets and drugs are rife, I don't see why copyright infringement would be any different.

If by "Organized crime" you mean a network that is essentially connected via the government, I agree. And it's not, technically, the government's  fault, it'd just that it's fucking impossible, ridiculous, for a single agency to govern seven million people. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Good old aneristic delusion, tho, won't stop them trying for maximum lulz. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Just before we got out of manufacturing there was talk of opening a factory in China. I'm kinda glad we didn't. At least in Morocco you got the impression that your exploitatively small wages were at least helping these people out. The Chinese factories kept their workers like fucking battery hens.

Weirdly, because of the insanely fucked up way that the Chinese government rocks their currency (it's worth more at night. Think about that) these insane jobs that factory workers do are highly coveted and can hold together a whole town.

[Cain]

As far as I can see, organized crime controls everything outside of Beijing. Usually these guys are connected with the security services, and in return for "keeping the peace" are allowed to break as many other laws as they feel like.  Unless they get too out of hand, in which case someone comes down from the Central Office and puts their head on a spike.  But in the Chinese provinces, prostitution, protection rackets and drugs are rife, I don't see why copyright infringement would be any different.

If by "Organized crime" you mean a network that is essentially connected via the government, I agree. And it's not, technically, the government's  fault, it'd just that it's fucking impossible, ridiculous, for a single agency to govern seven million people. 

Well, they stepped in because government governance failed, I wont deny.  In the early days, most were entirely freelance, but nowdays they often intermarry into the MSS, much in the way feudal marriages took place in Europe, because the government sees the sense in cutting a deal with them instead of losing control of the countryside entirely.

Fuijan Province, for example, is basically the Sicily of East Asia.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Gotta fucking love it when a government too large to actually govern turns into, essentially, anarchy.

[East Coast Hustle]

It's not really anarchy, though, it's just not-officially-state-sponsored autocratic/feudal rule.

In other words, it's what anarchy will always turn into.

[Doktor Howl]

China, overall, is 78 on the list of population density. Density is not the problem, or Holland would be a 3rd world country.

Yeah, but in terms of absolute numbers, 1.5 billion people or so, with very limited useful land, is a problem no matter what density you're talking about...bear in mind that much of China is mountains.  Density per acre of arable land would be a more interesting thing to look at.

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China, overall, is 78 on the list of population density. Density is not the problem, or Holland would be a 3rd world country.

Yeah, but in terms of absolute numbers, 1.5 billion people or so, with very limited useful land, is a problem no matter what density you're talking about...bear in mind that much of China is mountains.  Density per acre of arable land would be a more interesting thing to look at.

Or median population density.
Measured vs. number of people, I think...