UNLIMITED Arizona Hilarity thread

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

They are.  Quite often literally.

A lot of libertarian rhetoric is designed to appeal to social libertarianism (so, hippies), while selling economic libertarianism.

I feel amaze that I didn't realize this until now!

It's a pretty explicit strategy by the larger libertarian groups.

And it makes a good deal of sense.  Hippies and libertarians generally agree on social issues to a large extent, and on foreign policy.  The main difference is economics, with most hippies coming from a heterodox socialist or anarchist background.  So it's simply a matter of showing how "true capitalism", as opposed to corrupted, insider-dealing, statist backed Actually Existing Capitalism is a revolutionary advance capable of meeting the utopian goals many hippies have.

It makes PERFECT sense.

[Doktor Howl]

They are.  Quite often literally.

A lot of libertarian rhetoric is designed to appeal to social libertarianism (so, hippies), while selling economic libertarianism.

I feel amaze that I didn't realize this until now!

It's a pretty explicit strategy by the larger libertarian groups.

And it makes a good deal of sense.  Hippies and libertarians generally agree on social issues to a large extent, and on foreign policy.  The main difference is economics, with most hippies coming from a heterodox socialist or anarchist background.  So it's simply a matter of showing how "true capitalism", as opposed to corrupted, insider-dealing, statist backed Actually Existing Capitalism is a revolutionary advance capable of meeting the utopian goals many hippies have.

It makes PERFECT sense.

Also, gives aging hippies an excuse to turn into selfish bastards, if that's how they're aging.

[Pergamos]

They are.  Quite often literally.

A lot of libertarian rhetoric is designed to appeal to social libertarianism (so, hippies), while selling economic libertarianism.

I feel amaze that I didn't realize this until now!

It's a pretty explicit strategy by the larger libertarian groups.

And it makes a good deal of sense.  Hippies and libertarians generally agree on social issues to a large extent, and on foreign policy.  The main difference is economics, with most hippies coming from a heterodox socialist or anarchist background.  So it's simply a matter of showing how "true capitalism", as opposed to corrupted, insider-dealing, statist backed Actually Existing Capitalism is a revolutionary advance capable of meeting the utopian goals many hippies have.

I've read some of the stuff that Center for a Stateless Society puts out and a lot of it is exactly this. 

[Cain]

Yeah, though I would say at least the C4SS is sincere about it.  They're left-libertarians and mutualist anarchists, so that is actually what they believe.

Whereas, for instance, the libertarian "opposition" to the drug war is really aiming to put it under the control of the individual states, as part of a process of dismantling the federal government to the state level.  Kevin Carson probably cares that people are put in jail for a prohibitionist policy...I somehow doubt the Koch brothers do.

[Cain]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

[Ben Shapiro]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

I love you Cain.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

The big, bad government?  And they took HELP from it?

[Ben Shapiro]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

The big, bad government?  And they took HELP from it?

Of course they're Christian Anarchists.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

OH, NO, HE'LL HAVE TO FIND WORK! 

[tyrannosaurus vex]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/15/christians-pacific-voyage-rescue-kiribati

An Arizona family who set sail for the tiny island of Kiribati to escape abortion, homosexuality and "the state-controlled church" in the US are back home after their boat foundered in the Pacific.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said she and her husband, Sean, 30, had "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego in May.

But after storms damaged the boat and left them drifting for weeks they had to be rescued by a Venezuelan fishing vessel, and were then transferred to a Japanese cargo ship and taken to Chile.

Sean Gastonguay told KTVK-TV he would now have to find work to repay the $10,000 the family borrowed from the US State Department to fly home.

OH, NO, HE'LL HAVE TO FIND WORK! 

THANKS, OBAMA

[Cramulus]

That is such a great story, I almost don't believe it

If we move forward with this freepressgazette project, we need more libertarian horror stories. Stories where people get theirs in the end.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Oh, Arizona.

http://www.kpho.com/story/23144988/ariz-legislators-ask-obama-to-reconsider-fire-aid

PHOENIX (AP) - Key Arizona legislators are asking President Barack Obama to reconsider his administration's denial of the state's request for federal disaster relief for Yarnell for the Yavapai County community's wildfire damage.

The Yarnell Hill Fire that killed 19 members of a Prescott firefighting crew on June 30 swept through much of Yarnell the same day, burning more than 100 homes.

The joint letter by House Speaker Andy Tobin and Minority Leader Chad Campbell cites the property damage and statements of support from Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency denied Gov. Jan Brewer's request for a disaster declaration on Friday.

So now they need Obama all of a sudden?  And why is this, you ask?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarnell,_Arizona

The racial makeup of the CDP was 96.90% White, 0.16% Black or African American, 0.16% Native American, 0.16% Pacific Islander, 1.09% from other races, and 1.55% from two or more races. 1.86% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

For those of you unfamiliar with GOD'S COUNTRY, Green Valley is just South of Tucson, and it's where we stuff crazy people and ancient retired rock "stars" who have gone right wing in their senile years.

It's also where "taking a 3 year old out shooting" is considered to be a rational act.

http://www.kpho.com/story/23125745/ariz-man-accidentally-shot-in-buttocks-by-son

[The Good Reverend Roger]

And suddenly & without warning, Sheriff Joe.

http://www.kpho.com/story/23110412/maricopa-sheriffs-posse-resumes-school-patrols

Armed and uniformed posse volunteers in marked sheriff's vehicles patrol outside and in the vicinity of elementary, middle and high schools in the sheriff's jurisdiction.

Yes, Sheriff Joe's untrained pet Nazis are once again roaming just off school grounds, loaded for bear.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

More Sheriff Joe:

http://www.kpho.com/story/23088834/arpaio-arms-deputies-with-ar-15-style-rifles

PHOENIX (AP) - Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is providing each of his patrol deputies with a semi-automatic AR-15 style rifle, and has ordered them to carry a weapon at all times, even when they're off duty.

For those of you who are Godless gun-grabbers or Euro-types, an AR15 is a semi-automatic variant of the M16 assault rifle used by the US military.  From a law enforcement point of view, it's sort of like swatting a fly with a ball peen hammer.  You might even get the fly, but the living room is going to be fucked up when you're done.

Further:

The sheriff also announced Thursday that each of his patrol deputies must carry a firearm with them at all times to be able to combat crime even when they aren't on duty.

Arpaio says "we live in a violent society," and he wants his officers to have "enough firepower to fight back."

Which doesn't sound TOO unreasonable, until you remember that Sheriff Joe defines "violent" as "possessing brown skin".  He's been having a field day since the Zimmerman verdict.