Unlimited Dok Howl Supervillian Thread

[Adios]

I just want to mention that one of the things that I, and I think many others here, really enjoy about Dok is his over-the-top polemic. It's a well-known quality, and sure, it's not nice to have it turned against you, but when people (like Brotep, in this case) proclaim that it's what's wrong with the board, I kinda want to tell them to stick it up their ass. You can't have it both ways; a strong, engaging personality is going to be equally strong and engaging both when you're liking it and when you're not liking it. If you want milquetoast, I can suggest a few boards for you. This is not one of them, and I hope it never is.

[LMNO]

I would like to point out that a polemic is designed to create an emotional response, and can completely derail a conversation if used carelessly.

[Doktor Howl]

I would like to point out that a polemic is designed to create an emotional response, and can completely derail a conversation if used carelessly.

And always, always, assume it's loaded.

[LMNO]

I would like to point out that a polemic is designed to create an emotional response, and can completely derail a conversation if used carelessly.

And always, always, assume it's loaded.

Apt metaphors are apt.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I would like to point out that a polemic is designed to create an emotional response, and can completely derail a conversation if used carelessly.

Just to look at it from another perspective, if you were writing Dok as a character in a story, would you give him temperance and restraint? Or would he be a better character if he went all-out, all the time?

I think I know which would make a better character. With temperance and restraint, you have created a character who is a politician or a hero. Without, you have created a character of interest.

To return to real life for a moment, FFS, the guy has brain damage. You're expecting him to be "careful" with his polemic? I'm not saying he should get a free pass, any more than anyone else should get a free pass based on whatever the fuck's wrong with them (and it does seem like 3/4 of this board has depression or some other illness) but it's all part of working in a community, up to a point. Take a chick who will say absofucklutely anything because she's missing her filters; you enjoy the shit out of the chick who's missing her filters, and then sometimes her missing filters are less than enjoyable but you know it's kind of the price you pay for the times when you enjoy it.

[LMNO]

To speak as an author, with Dok as a character as you describe, the story would need a judicial placement, and NON-placement of his presence/polemics.


To speak IRBL (in real Board life), I would take Dok at his own words, and say that only he is responsible for his actions.  He would probably agree. 

I would also point out that he can be starkly plain, rational, and logical; he can self-analyze like a motherfucker; and more than any other poster I have seen in my five years here, he is the one who has made the most apologies when he has realized he might be wrong.  So in that way, he is nothing like the fictional character proposed.

[Doktor Howl]

To speak IRBL (in real Board life), I would take Dok at his own words, and say that only he is responsible for his actions.  He would probably agree. 

I do.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Doc is awesome! Anyone gets butthurt over something he says - it's their fucking problem. Hell I'll get in a flame war with him from time to time cos fucked if you can resist, right? But he's a genuine, stand-up guy. Like a brother to me. A brother made out of bullets and bile sometimes but we shared a womb. You want to fuck with the Doc then you're fucking with me too. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm just staying, and sticking to it, that strong personalities are strong. There's an upside and a downside to this. You don't get to be like "I DON'T WANT YOUR PERSONALITY TO BE STRONG ALL THE TIME BECAUSE SOMETIMES I DON'T LIKE IT".

Well, actually, you DO get to be like that, and also you get to stand in the storm shaking your fist at the wind, if you want to.

[LMNO]

I will agree with that.

But I will also state that I believe that Dok is NOT binary; he is more than a two-position, on/off polemic valve.



More than most people, he honestly tries hard to be a biped.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I will agree with that.

But I will also state that I believe that Dok is NOT binary; he is more than a two-position, on/off polemic valve.



More than most people, he honestly tries hard to be a biped.

Yeah. And?

[LMNO]

And,

You're expecting him to be "careful" with his polemic?

Yes.

[Doktor Howl]

But I don't want to be careful.   

I want to go straight through the drywall, over the top, and come crashing down like John Denver in a stunt plane.   

Life is too short for careful.

That being said, I AM responsible for the things I say and do.  I am not, however, responsible for things other people say I say and do (talking to you, Brotep, you fucking swine). 

[LMNO]

All I'm saying is that sometimes, you need a hammer; and sometimes, you need a really big hammer.


You know your tools; and you know how to use them.  Right?

[Doktor Howl]

All I'm saying is that sometimes, you need a hammer; and sometimes, you need a really big hammer.


You know your tools; and you know how to use them.  Right?

Right.

It's sort of like having 4th and 5th gear.  You sometimes need to differentiate between speeds.

Not sure what the other 3 are for, though.