I love the queers

[Cain]

ETA: The problem with an  inconsistent approach to asking about pronouns is that if it's not something you ask everyone, you risk offending by asking. The rarity of the question makes asking a person-who-was-assigned-female-at-birth-but-who-unintentionally-could-be-perceived-as-presenting-as-male "what gender pronoun do you prefer" suggest more than you may like it to.

"I'm Justin Bieber, asshole"
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[EK WAFFLR]

"cis-male lesbians"? ...What? Are you sure that wasn't a troll? Because that would be an excellent troll.

Too, numerous to be trolls, I think. I still hope I'm wrong about that though.

Bottom line for me, as always, is don't be an asshole.

[Juana]

"cis-male lesbians"? ...What? Are you sure that wasn't a troll? Because that would be an excellent troll.

Too, numerous to be trolls, I think. I still hope I'm wrong about that though.

Bottom line for me, as always, is don't be an asshole.

The fuck.

Same rule for me, too.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Reminds me of that character on the l word who was a lesbian trapped in a mans body.

Which at the time i thought was just a joke maybe at los angeles' expense but apparently not.

[Juana]

...I don't like labeling people, because it's an act of power and that kind of power belongs to them, but I have trouble buying that. I feel like maybe they don't understand the terminology? IDK.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

heteroflexible and homoflexible which i dont even know what those mean.

That's another reason I tend to not get too involved with Causes.  I already have too much technical jargon at work, I don't want to learn a whole new set of it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

ETA: The problem with an  inconsistent approach to asking about pronouns is that if it's not something you ask everyone, you risk offending by asking. The rarity of the question makes asking a person-who-was-assigned-female-at-birth-but-who-unintentionally-could-be-perceived-as-presenting-as-male "what gender pronoun do you prefer" suggest more than you may like it to.

"I'm Justin Bieber, asshole"
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Is there anything more ridiculous than Justin Beiber?  I ask you.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Seriously. I like leaving my jargon at minor ninth chords mixolydian mode and what kind of number goes with this neoplasm.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

So would I, because that would mean the norm has changed enough to include us painlessly. But until "what are your pronouns?" is in general etiquette and no one bats an eye at the sexuality sphere, there's going to be one by necessity.

I know this might end up skewing things off on a tangent, but are you suggesting that everyone should on first meeting someone ask them what pronoun they want to be addressed with? Wouldn't be simpler to address someone by the pronoun that seems closest to how they appear until that person indicates otherwise?

Yes. And yes, but I don't see why it's hard to say four extra words when you meet a person.

There are ALL KINDS of things you could say to a person when you first meet them. That just seems unnecessary, invasive, and weird. Why not also ask them what race they are? Or maybe what their sexual preference is? Four little words. It's not so hard.

It's just weird and kind of creepy.

I swear to god if anyone ever asks me what pronoun I prefer I'm going to reply with "Why does it matter to you?"

This reminds me of a funny story.

Last time I hung out with a group of all lesbians and trans and whatever it was a party of sorts that I'd been tricked into. I hate parties. And surprises. So the hostess walks up, plays a five minute round of tonsil hockey with the friend I showed up with, also a lesbian, then turns to me and says HI!!! HoW ARE YOU!?!??! I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND, I'M JUST REALLY AFFECTIONATE!@! DO YOU PREFER MALE OR FEMALE PRONOUNS?

I told her it was dealer's choice. She immediately quit being loud and bubbly and glared at me. Then she said I had to choose. I told her I didn't, and shrugged. She asked me why. I told her I didn't care. It didn't matter to me.

The music died and pins were afraid to drop.

Then someone said they felt disrespected by my complete apathy to their ETERNAL STRUGGLE and the hostess asked me to leave. I saluted and walked out, slapping my friend on the back and whistling a merry tune as I went.

I wasn't deliberately being difficult. I just really don't give a fuck. And that's disrespectful.

Heh.  Fanatics are funny.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I'm just going to start referring to everyone as "it", and they can suck it up. 

Or "You People".

[The Good Reverend Roger]

In addition, I shall now refer to myself and my fellow PDers as AJDSAJ.

"Asshats, Jackasses, Dumbshits, Spags, And Jizzmoppers.

[Cain]

Is there anything more ridiculous than Justin Beiber?  I ask you.

Only two things:

The blog "Lesbians who look like Justin Bieber" and people who submit photos to said blog.

[insideout]

ETA: The problem with an  inconsistent approach to asking about pronouns is that if it's not something you ask everyone, you risk offending by asking. The rarity of the question makes asking a person-who-was-assigned-female-at-birth-but-who-unintentionally-could-be-perceived-as-presenting-as-male "what gender pronoun do you prefer" suggest more than you may like it to.

"I'm Justin Bieber, asshole"
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Is there anything more ridiculous than Justin Beiber?  I ask you.

Yes.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/13/us/justin-bieber-murder-plot/index.html

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Not to insult the whole idea of gender fluidity and all that sort of thing. Its just not something i would like to be asked. I dunno maybe i think things are getting overly complicated. I do like the idea of a gender neutral third and they works well. You and i/we dont have gender modifiers.

I am OK with they, but I prefer it. The whole thing of not calling people "it" is relatively recent, it used to be quite common to refer to children beneath the age of gender differentiation as "it" and it wasn't considered offensive at all.

That's my preference; I wouldn't force it on anyone though. I'm fine with "she". It's accurate enough.

But if anyone ever asks me, I will tell them that my preferred pronoun is "it".

[Salty]

Not to insult the whole idea of gender fluidity and all that sort of thing. Its just not something i would like to be asked. I dunno maybe i think things are getting overly complicated. I do like the idea of a gender neutral third and they works well. You and i/we dont have gender modifiers.

I am OK with they, but I prefer it. The whole thing of not calling people "it" is relatively recent, it used to be quite common to refer to children beneath the age of gender differentiation as "it" and it wasn't considered offensive at all.

That's my preference; I wouldn't force it on anyone though. I'm fine with "she". It's accurate enough.

But if anyone ever asks me, I will tell them that my preferred pronoun is "it".

Reason #1742 why you cannot trust a Nigel. It is a robot.

You are Nigel, right?