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Started by Vene, May 11, 2010, 05:39:50 PM

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a letter from an angry parent who is sick of the homophobic agenda being treated as a moral agenda.

QuoteYou have the audacity to talk about protecting families and children from the homosexual menace, while you yourselves tear apart families and drive children to despair. I don't know why my son is gay, but I do know that God didn't put him, and millions like him, on this Earth to give you someone to abuse. God gave you brains so that you could think, and it's about time you started doing that.

At the core of all your misguided beliefs is the belief that this could never happen to you, that there is some kind of subculture out there that people have chosen to join. The fact is that if it can happen to my family, it can happen to yours, and you won't get to choose. Whether it is genetic or whether something occurs during a critical time of fetal development, I don't know. I can only tell you with an absolute certainty that it is inborn.

If you want to tout your own morality, you'd best come up with something more substantive than your heterosexuality. You did nothing to earn it; it was given to you. If you disagree, I would be interested in hearing your story, because my own heterosexuality was a blessing I received with no effort whatsoever on my part. It is so woven into the very soul of me that nothing could ever change it. For those of you who reduce sexual orientation to a simple choice, a character issue, a bad habit or something that can be changed by a 10-step program, I'm puzzled. Are you saying that your own sexual orientation is nothing more than something you have chosen, that you could change it at will? If that's not the case, then why would you suggest that someone else can?

Kai

You know it's all fucked up when people get upset about love and think it's great to hate.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Adios

Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 03:51:41 PM
You know it's all fucked up when people get upset about love and think it's great to hate.

I doubt that people who can hate like that have ever felt love.

East Coast Hustle

I'm not sure why the two would be mutually exclusive. Having poorly thought-out motivations for one strong emotion doesn't preclude having other strong emotions.

The motivations for those, of course, would probably be poorly thought-out as well.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Adios

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on May 13, 2010, 04:20:33 PM
I'm not sure why the two would be mutually exclusive. Having poorly thought-out motivations for one strong emotion doesn't preclude having other strong emotions.

The motivations for those, of course, would probably be poorly thought-out as well.

True enough I guess.

East Coast Hustle

It's how the kinds of people you see on www.peopleofwalmart.com keep breeding.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Faust

Quote from: Hawk on May 13, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 03:51:41 PM
You know it's all fucked up when people get upset about love and think it's great to hate.

I doubt that people who can hate like that have ever felt love.

Hate is very closely linked to love in the way your mind processes emotions. And I both loved and intensely hated people at the same time.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hawk on May 13, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 03:51:41 PM
You know it's all fucked up when people get upset about love and think it's great to hate.

I doubt that people who can hate like that have ever felt love.

Balls.  You can't hate without having experienced love. 
Molon Lube

Kai

Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.

Don't leave Kansas.  That's South Carolina, Kai.

But I'm glad to hear that you can be yourself, if only on Campus.
Molon Lube

Adios


Kai

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 13, 2010, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.

Don't leave Kansas.  That's South Carolina, Kai.

But I'm glad to hear that you can be yourself, if only on Campus.

And anywhere in the immediate area of town really. I go out to eat and no one bothers me.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Vene

Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.
This reminds me that I forgot your gender, other than that there is some sort of weirdness going on with it. Do you mind if I categorize you as "genderqueer" for the sake of convenience? Also, what pronoun was I supposed to use? Do you mind if I alternate freely between male and female?

Kai

Quote from: Vene on May 13, 2010, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.
This reminds me that I forgot your gender, other than that there is some sort of weirdness going on with it. Do you mind if I categorize you as "genderqueer" for the sake of convenience? Also, what pronoun was I supposed to use? Do you mind if I alternate freely between male and female?

genderqueer is fine. he or she or they is fine. "It" is probably okay in the right context. made up pronouns are screwy because we already have neutral pronouns in this language.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Adios

Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: Vene on May 13, 2010, 05:41:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on May 13, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Speaking of queerness....

I've been wearing a long modest skirt on campus for the last month and a half, 1-2 days a week. Initially I was terrified, but after a day of no body harassing me I've decided that if anyone gives a shit they won't act on it. Which makes me feel very good and self confident.
This reminds me that I forgot your gender, other than that there is some sort of weirdness going on with it. Do you mind if I categorize you as "genderqueer" for the sake of convenience? Also, what pronoun was I supposed to use? Do you mind if I alternate freely between male and female?

genderqueer is fine. he or she or they is fine. "It" is probably okay in the right context. made up pronouns are screwy because we already have neutral pronouns in this language.

Can I just call you Kai?