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The Official Unlimited Oil Spill Thread!

Started by Suu, May 30, 2010, 02:40:46 PM

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the last yatto

#210
rem, you see Stewart joke about the nuclear option never being off the table?  :lulz:


still dont get why instead of offering $5,000 lie-ability waviers,

they didnt hand fishermen oil booees
instead of just putting them up and leaving em unattended as i saw on msnbc
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Juana

Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 10, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
BP spend ZERO on R&D for "what happens if", they got the permit by promising oil would never touch land, or wetlands, or marshes,...
BP's Spill Plan: What they knew and when they knew it
They had a "what if" and even a plan, but it was based on I'm guessing some bad info, because their highest calculated possibility was 16% likelyhood for it to end up in the Parish mentioned in the article. Perhaps they didn't expect this magnitude.

QuoteI have obtained a copy of the almost-600-page BP Regional Oil Spill Response Plan for the Gulf of Mexico as of June, 2009, thanks to an insider. Some material has been redacted, but these are the three main takeaways from an initial read. The name of the well has been redacted, but if it's not Deepwater Horizon, then there's another rig still out there pumping oil and aimed at Plaquemines Parish.

1) In the worst case discharge scenario (on chart below), an oil leak was expected to come ashore with highest probability in Plaquemines Parish within 30 days (see map above from the Advance Response Plan). This makes it clear that BP could have stored adequate boom there before a rig failure like the Deepwater Horizon, and workers could have been mobilized to apply the boom in the 30 days that the response plan predicted oil would hit our wetlands.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Vene

Personally, I love this. I love it almost as much as I love their emergency equipment supplier.

Suu

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 10, 2010, 05:44:25 PM
Nobody sent hate mail to anyone's family. Let's face it, that's just typical minitrue bullshit to help sway public opinion. :tinfoilhat:

It wouldn't surprise me if the media was making shit up to make the British public feel bad for BP and the ration of shit they're getting for this.

Boo hoo.
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Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Hover Cat on June 10, 2010, 10:52:29 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 10, 2010, 05:15:52 PM
BP spend ZERO on R&D for "what happens if", they got the permit by promising oil would never touch land, or wetlands, or marshes,...
BP's Spill Plan: What they knew and when they knew it
They had a "what if" and even a plan, but it was based on I'm guessing some bad info, because their highest calculated possibility was 16% likelyhood for it to end up in the Parish mentioned in the article. Perhaps they didn't expect this magnitude.

QuoteI have obtained a copy of the almost-600-page BP Regional Oil Spill Response Plan for the Gulf of Mexico as of June, 2009, thanks to an insider. Some material has been redacted, but these are the three main takeaways from an initial read. The name of the well has been redacted, but if it's not Deepwater Horizon, then there's another rig still out there pumping oil and aimed at Plaquemines Parish.

1) In the worst case discharge scenario (on chart below), an oil leak was expected to come ashore with highest probability in Plaquemines Parish within 30 days (see map above from the Advance Response Plan). This makes it clear that BP could have stored adequate boom there before a rig failure like the Deepwater Horizon, and workers could have been mobilized to apply the boom in the 30 days that the response plan predicted oil would hit our wetlands.

Whatever. Wanna help me scrub some birds? You can crash on my couch.

Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on June 11, 2010, 02:26:56 AM


Pppppppwhahaha!

Juana

I signed up to do that, actually. We'll see if they call me or not, though they're having trouble with money last I checked.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Sir Squid Diddimus

there's money?

fuck that.
got a bucket and some gloves? yeah.


let's go.

Juana

:) Money for the National Wildlife Federation people to pay for food and stuff for volunteers. You have to pay your way down there, and I can get free plane tickets, but I'd have to have food and somewhere to sleep.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Sir Squid Diddimus

I'm an hour from the coast.
I have food in my fridge.

I'll go.

Juana

Let me talk to my source of plane tickets and try to make some arrangements for some stuff, but I'll PM you soon if you're serious about this.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Remington

Is it plugged in?

Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Hover Cat on June 11, 2010, 05:52:30 AM
Let me talk to my source of plane tickets and try to make some arrangements for some stuff, but I'll PM you soon if you're serious about this.

Uh, if it hits my shores I know where I'll be spending my weekends.

"Have shovel, will shlupp"

whether they want me there or not. i'll be cleaning some shit up.
i'll be watching. waiting. with my big black rubber gloves.

Jasper

Quote from: Remington on June 11, 2010, 06:51:38 AM
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/09/bp-skip-hearing/

Seriously, can we rouse up some lynch mobs now?

They made the mistake of lying to them.  This IS a witch hunt, or should be, and they should be afraid.

For the oceans, their precious company, and maybe even themselves.

Sir Squid Diddimus

I think Rachel Maddow has been covering this whole mess better than any other news station/show anywhere.