Female sexual dysfunction

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The more research that is done on difference between sexes, the more it appears that our experiences are very different.

1. Some research indicates that men are far less spatially challenged than women. Due, not to stereotypes, but actual brain chemistry. The current theory is that men out hunting needed to find their way back home and passed on the good directional genes to their sons. One study of four year old's noted a 4:1 difference between boys that could process 3 dimensions to girls.

2. Some research indicates that women use more of their brain for smells and communication (by a large percent).

3. Some research indicates that the physical makeup of the male body has up to 10% more water than females.

4. Apparently women see colors better than men, since being able to process red is defined by the X chromosome.  

(saw it on cracked.com so it must be true!)

In the end, I think science will eventually find that males and females are VERY different... not one better or worse... just very different.  Trying to equate physical or psychological issues between the sexes seems like an exercise in futility to me. Hell, trying to equate one man's ED with another man's ED is probably not gonna work, because so much of what we 'feel' depends on our early childhood imprints. I agree with the post that siad this would make good flame fodder, but not much beyond that. In fact, I think its horrific that people with dysfunctions of any kind feel that they have to compare their problems with other people's to somehow legitimize their issues.

We have so many possible problems in our lives, either physical, psychological or environmental... trying to compete seems absurd to me.

Or the differences could simply learned. Sounds like some pretty flawed studies to me. If a woman is taught to hunt I am sure that somewhere she could find the intelligence to find her way home again.

Women can see red better than men?   

As I said... cracked.com However:

Directions:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574402/Women-and-gay-men-are-worst-drivers.html
http://www.theprovince.com/cars/cars+make+more+manly+study+shows/1870063/there+reason+directions/1600793/story.html
http://www.zimbio.com/Spatial+Awareness+of+Men+Versus+Women/articles/3/can+men+find+their+way+around

Smelling:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1796447.stm
http://www.livescience.com/culture/090407-women-smell.html

Women Talking:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9041858
http://www.doctorhugo.org/brain4.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_2_99/ai_68648283/

Seeing Colors Better Than Men:
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2004/09/02/4472.aspx

Difference in Water ratio = Difference in Alcohol consumption:
http://www.bloodalcohol.info/alcohol-in-men-versus-women.php

Not mentioned in my post but interesting nonetheless... women feel pain more acutely than men:
http://www.everydayhealth.com/pain-management/women-and-chronic-pain.aspx
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=proteins-may-be-key-to-pa
http://www.sfn.org/index.aspx?pagename=brainBriefings_Gender_and_Pain

And of course, all of these are generalities about 'some but not all' women and men.

And the original Cracked.com article:http://www.cracked.com/article_18529_6-absurd-gender-stereotypes-that-science-says-are-true.html

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There's also growing evidence that mainly women are far more likely to be true tetrachromats, so some unknown percentage of women CAN distinguish more color variation than men. Source 1 Source 2.

The point is that there are genetically determined differences that are sex-linked and effect perception. Color perception is just one example. I see Ratatosk has more handy.

I can also dig up the sources on how straight men and straight women's brains are wired differently in relation to sex.

There's also pretty good evidence that men's sex drive is generally much stronger and straightforward than women whose arousal is based more on complex contextual cues.

It seems absurd to think these biological predispositions are not going to effect how each deals with sexual dysfunction.

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There's also growing evidence that mainly women are far more likely to be true tetrachromats, so some unknown percentage of women CAN distinguish more color variation than men. Source 1 Source 2.

The point is that there are genetically determined differences that are sex-linked and effect perception. Color perception is just one example. I see Ratatosk has more handy.

I can also dig up the sources on how straight men and straight women's brains are wired differently in relation to sex.

There's also pretty good evidence that men's sex drive is generally much stronger and straightforward than women whose arousal is based more on complex contextual cues.

It seems absurd to think these biological predispositions are not going to effect how each deals with sexual dysfunction.

I think what set me off about this is the 'women have a hole so being sexually dysfunctional can't bother them' mentality.

[Freeky]

There's also pretty good evidence that men's sex drive is generally much stronger and straightforward than women whose arousal is based more on complex contextual cues.

I'm going have to say FUCKING BULLSHIT to that line there. Some days I am in physical pain from having a sex drive that I can't seem to act on. Honestly, it doesn't matter, IMO, whether a women needs more cues than visual ones, it doesn't mean that it's less powerful.

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I think what set me off about this is the 'women have a hole so being sexually dysfunctional can't bother them' mentality.

I think that's an abusive attitude towards women as well.

I hope my argument is not being construed as supporting that point of view.

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I think what set me off about this is the 'women have a hole so being sexually dysfunctional can't bother them' mentality.

I think that's an abusive attitude towards women as well.

I hope my argument is not being construed as supporting that point of view.

Of course I don't think you support that. I guess my problem with a lot of these studies is they seem to start from the same old prejudices that have been proven false.

Men are superior.
Men hunt, women cook

Well, you get the idea.

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There's also pretty good evidence that men's sex drive is generally much stronger and straightforward than women whose arousal is based more on complex contextual cues.

I'm going have to say FUCKING BULLSHIT to that line there. Some days I am in physical pain from having a sex drive that I can't seem to act on. Honestly, it doesn't matter, IMO, whether a women needs more cues than visual ones, it doesn't mean that it's less powerful.

That doesn't mean some women's sex drives aren't much stronger than some men's.

In general and statistically, the evidence supports that men have the stronger sex drive though.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

[Freeky]

I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

Badge speaks Teh Troof.

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I think what set me off about this is the 'women have a hole so being sexually dysfunctional can't bother them' mentality.

I think that's an abusive attitude towards women as well.

I hope my argument is not being construed as supporting that point of view.

Of course I don't think you support that. I guess my problem with a lot of these studies is they seem to start from the same old prejudices that have been proven false.

Men are superior.
Men hunt, women cook

Well, you get the idea.

Yeah, it's all to easy for people to jump from observing differences between the sexes to thinking these differences confer general superiority to one sex.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

There's also pretty good evidence that men's sex drive is generally much stronger and straightforward than women whose arousal is based more on complex contextual cues.

I'm going have to say FUCKING BULLSHIT to that line there. Some days I am in physical pain from having a sex drive that I can't seem to act on. Honestly, it doesn't matter, IMO, whether a women needs more cues than visual ones, it doesn't mean that it's less powerful.

That doesn't mean some women's sex drives aren't much stronger than some men's.

In general and statistically, the evidence supports that men have the stronger sex drive though.

Does it adjust for age? Men's libidos tend to go down over time, while women's stay constant or increase. If you're surveying a bunch of 18 year olds, yeah probably would look like that statistically.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

I agree... I think  'weaker' is a poor word choice... What research there is (and some is now beyond just surveys) seems to indicaate fundamental differences in how/why/what is involved in arousal, what it takes to meet the needs etc... and beyond that (and far more importantly I think) is the individuals own life experiences that most strongly affect their sexual identity, experience and imprints.

It may be far more clear a century from now, when we've had all sexes liberated from their old hoary traditional roles and we've got maps of the brain and the human genome to pull some hard data from. Speaking of which, I need to go pull my hard data.

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I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

How is that necessarily not evolutionarily sound?

Men may have a greater predisposition to spread their seed as far as possible, resulting in a stronger sex drive.

Women may have a greater predisposition to select mates that will help take care of offspring resulting in a weaker sex drive.

The result is that in general, women need more convincing to get busy than men do, and I think in most people's experience this is true.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

How is that necessarily not evolutionarily sound?

Men may have a greater predisposition to spread their seed as far as possible, resulting in a stronger sex drive.

Women may have a greater predisposition to select mates that will help take care of offspring resulting in a weaker sex drive.

The result is that in general, women need more convincing to get busy than men do, and I think in most people's experience this is true.

It's true... except for sluts.... they will fucking anything.


(please note the above is meant to be a joke based on stereotypes and does not actually reflect the views of Ratatosk).

[Adios]

I don't think it's possible to say whether men's sex drive is stronger or more direct.  Given that almost everything we know (scientifically) about desire and libido come from surveys, I would say that men and women may talk about their desires differently, but the fundamental desire to have sex isn't going to be weaker for half the population.  That's just not evolutionarily sound.

How is that necessarily not evolutionarily sound?

Men may have a greater predisposition to spread their seed as far as possible, resulting in a stronger sex drive.

Women may have a greater predisposition to select mates that will help take care of offspring resulting in a weaker sex drive.

The result is that in general, women need more convincing to get busy than men do, and I think in most people's experience this is true.

Um, no.