Total Madness

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?

[Doktor Howl]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

What does this have to do with the OP, though?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.

You read the OP and thought that he was saying we should all get mental illnesses?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?

Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.

But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.

Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."

The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind. So many things about this state boggle my mind. This backwards ban against public masturbation / fucking is a crime against humanity and all of evolution. When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience. I've been hearing about various trickster gods out of the corner of my ear ever since I was a little boy and now a bad case of apparent manic-depression has led me to relate more to The Mask (the Jim Carrey film) than I ever thought possible.

I know all of you have already encountered these ideas but they're just now really sinking into my brain and the stain they leave is going to be very ugly looking to some people
Hi my name is Jack and I'm a psychoholic.

"Or kill me."

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.

You read the OP and thought that he was saying we should all get mental illnesses?

What are you talking about?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?

Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.

But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.

Why are you being an asshole?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?

Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.

But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.

Why are you being an asshole?

Wasn't intending to be an asshole. You asked me to clarify, so I did. HOw is that being an asshole?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Then clarify your original statement:  which definition, specifically, did you mean?

Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.

Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.

Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.

How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?

Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.

But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.

Why are you being an asshole?

Wasn't intending to be an asshole. You asked me to clarify, so I did. HOw is that being an asshole?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Brilliant discussion, Nigel.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.

If not I may rant that shit right up!

I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.

I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.

Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.

No, no, no.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.

If not I may rant that shit right up!

I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.

I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.

Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.

well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.

where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?

I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular.   The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.

If not I may rant that shit right up!

I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.

I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.

Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.

well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.

where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?

I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular.   The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.

Firstly, I'm not trying to push emotional hell on anyone like some antichrist billy mays. Feeling bad feels bad, man.



The things I'm in support of are creativity, the ability to think of things from multiple angles, not having a stuck view of reality on any particular opinion / "fact", knowing the majority of truths we take for granted are probably bullshit (in MY VIRGIN OPINION), invention, cleverness, basically not being a cabbage, 100% certain of everything, which are hard to live with after reading certain texts that pretty much destroyed all the certainty in my life.

Not just separation from popular reality, but also your own lazier views on life, can have positive impact.

I can't believe I'm even suggesting these ideas to discordian forum.

None of those things are madness, though. They are all bleeding fucking obvious to just about everyone here. They aren't psychosis, or manic depression. So maybe consider rewriting your rant using accurate language without made-up definitions, and see if it can be understood by anyone who isn't a Maybe Logic wankerette.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

yes. Calling a wheel a frog and expecting someone to know what you are talking about is not the way forward here.

[P3nT4gR4m]

None of those things are madness, though. They are all bleeding fucking obvious to just about everyone here. They aren't psychosis, or manic depression. So maybe consider rewriting your rant using accurate language without made-up definitions, and see if it can be understood by anyone who isn't a Maybe Logic wankerette.

THIS!

Stop trying to browbeat us with shit we already know. Lurk moar. You'll soon see where we're coming from and where we are. Sometimes it's time to transmit and other times it helps to shut up and listen. Have a look around. You are no longer the weirdest fucker in the room.