Total Madness

[Nephew Twiddleton]

No, no, no.

Says the guy without the Picard avatar.

I'm not trying to be an ignorant prick, it's just that I probably am one.

Dok has all the authority of the face-palm Picard regardless of avatar. He's been here a long time.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.

If not I may rant that shit right up!

I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.

I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.

Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.

well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.

where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?

I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular.   The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.

Firstly, I'm not trying to push emotional hell on anyone like some antichrist billy mays. Feeling bad feels bad, man.



The things I'm in support of are creativity, the ability to think of things from multiple angles, not having a stuck view of reality on any particular opinion / "fact", knowing the majority of truths we take for granted are probably bullshit (in MY VIRGIN OPINION), invention, cleverness, basically not being a cabbage, 100% certain of everything, which are hard to live with after reading certain texts that pretty much destroyed all the certainty in my life.

Not just separation from popular reality, but also your own lazier views on life, can have positive impact.

I can't believe I'm even suggesting these ideas to discordian forum.

Careful. That's dangerously close to sounding like the really real Discordian showing other Discordians what being a Discordian is all about. That's not a step you want to take. 

[LMNO]

Ok. Pump the brakes.

Dude has the right direction, but didn't think it through. Is now defensive because we're kicking him in the crotch.

Dude, apologize for trying to poeticize insanity. Apologize without any excuses. Admit you were wrong.

Then start over, re-write you rant, saying what you mean in either 1. The most clear language you can muster, or 2. The most poetic you can fathom.

Be sure that we will pull apart everything you do. It's our way. But if you dig deep and speak honestly, it will work.

[Doktor Howl]

Ok. Pump the brakes.

Dude has the right direction, but didn't think it through. Is now defensive because we're kicking him in the crotch.

Dude, apologize for trying to poeticize insanity. Apologize without any excuses. Admit you were wrong.

Then start over, re-write you rant, saying what you mean in either 1. The most clear language you can muster, or 2. The most poetic you can fathom.

Be sure that we will pull apart everything you do. It's our way. But if you dig deep and speak honestly, it will work.

This.  I think this guy has potential.  He just needs to keep at it.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

its a bit like saying, oMG thats sooo gay in a derogatory fashion at a Gay Pride march, missapropriating mental health language without clarification around here.

he's probably an alright dude.

I just have a personal bugbear, along with our two good doktors here abiout what it is like to be really real mentals, and the misuse of said language.

[Doktor Howl]

Having now read the Conversations From Hell thread, I can see how coming here with the words I did would make me look like an asshole. I'm sorry.

I think I might set up a tent in this thread and use it as a miscellaneous dump for whatever ideas I have or things I write.

Next idea will be related to and expanding on my original post, but different. A thesis statement for the pluses behind transitioning from one form of thinking to another - specifically, from loving limitation / purposelessness, to loving total freedom and infinite possibilities. Shrugging off the "weight of the world" syndrome. I think this is a central struggle to my time here and it should produce some interesting words.

Alright.

Go for it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I like this last entry, and I have a suggestion, which is that at this stage of the game you consider focusing on understanding and deconstructing yourself, without trying to extrapolate to other people.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Okay I'm fast warming to this noob! Also agree with Nigel - you seem to be doing much better with the introspection-stuff.

Have your first for that category 1 piece

[The Wizard]

Category 2
Love of Freedom

This was really good, man. Keep it up.  This deserves

[Nephew Twiddleton]

[Cramulus]

This is good work! It sounds like you're passing the first veil. It's hard work, no?

I do feel that video games et al are dangerous because they scratch an itch for experience. If we lived in a world of gun fights and life-or-death platform jumping scenarios, I do not think we would be playing megaman in our spare time. Then again, my cop buddy is also a Halo master, so go fig.

Hakuna Mattata. Those damn dirty hippies who pursue Samadhi with the motto with Zen Buddhism, doing nothing. "Across space and time, a bong sounded".

I do think there is a difference between embracing stillness, being comfortable with inaction, and just being lazy.

My attempts to enter 5th-circuit headspace (I know it's only a model) through cannabis drugs have been catastrophic exercises in paranoia. It would seem I am more programmed toward data than sensation. More attuned to the shape of a room and all the little details there than actually interacting with other human beings without pangs of anxiety. When it should be a celebration.

That's too bad -- the 5th circuit is a great place to be. Where do you think the paranoia is coming from? I would recommend trying it out in different contexts. Try smoking alone and going for a walk in the woods or something - perhaps try to avoid the social stimulus that can be overwhelming in certain headspaces.

[LMNO]

Angel Tech links 5th Circut with First Circut.


I reccommend re-examining your 1C state.  If you have a poor concept of your physical body, you will not be comfortable taking risks, and you will be in a constant state of anxiety when doing so.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Angel Tech links 5th Circut with First Circut.


I reccommend re-examining your 1C state.  If you have a poor concept of your physical body, you will not be comfortable taking risks, and you will be in a constant state of anxiety when doing so.

Excellent observation, LMNO!

[LMNO]

Heh.  Just because I mock RAW and co., doesn't mean some of his work isn't useful.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Heh.  Just because I mock RAW and co., doesn't mean some of his work isn't useful.