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Started by Runaway_Scarecrow, June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM

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Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.

Um.

Dok,
Antibody

To clarify, he was talking about Yahoo!Answers, not PD.com.

(at least that's how it seemed to me)
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Fujikoma

I wasn't really sure what Doktor Howl meant by that... He thinks I'm talking about PD? Na. Was talking about Yahoo Answers.

Doktor Howl

Serves me right for skimming.   :lulz:
Molon Lube

Fujikoma

I can kind of see why it's a toilet... I feel a mindless rant trying to claw its way out, I'll try to keep it short.

Ok, the whole reason it's filled with trolls in the first place, likely, is because the questions are usually asked by, well, people who are ignorant as to how search engines work. If they wanted a good answer to their question, they'd spend a lot less time just typing it in to google or other comparable engine and seeing what pops up, using their noodle to filter everything but what appears relevant to their query, and doing a little bit of research. Instead, they go to a place like Yahoo answers and open themselves up to trolling and misinformation, asking stupid questions which they could answer for themselves if they simply didn't fail the internet. What am I? Your stupid search monkey? When you say "dance" I dance? But, no matter.

Example of a stupid question I have seen?
Q: Why does pot stay in your system for so long compared to other drugs?
A: Because it's fat soluble, douchepickle. Other drugs are water soluble.

When I don't answer right off the top of my head with something out of left field, it usually takes me seconds to find the crucial information they are seeking, at which point I shake my head with shame at what humanity has become. Perhaps after I complete (or fail, with terrible consequences) my experiment with getting them all to play nice, I'll move on to teaching them to use the tools at their disposal, rendering yahoo answers obsolete for all but the more meaningful questions, like "When I flush the toilet, does my poop go to hell?".

But it's starting to get to me... I fear I may be converted by the very thing I sought to convert. The temptation to cut loose on some of these people is almost too great, but I must remind myself that to do so would be to turn on my belief that there is yet hope for humanity, and that even those less gifted in the noodle department can still use the tools at their disposal to educate themselves a little better and be able to hold up a decent conversation, nurture vs. nature, that sort of thing... The circumstances to which one is exposed, I believe, affect quality of thinking, and it is quality, not necessarily quantity, which is more important in achieving a correct understanding... In which case, I'm the wrong person for the job, but, one has to have their goals in life... This is horrendously oversimplified, and I could go on about it for days, but I figure shorter is better.

Just my thoughts on Yahoo answers, and why it's dumb as all hell.

Cramulus

 :lulz: I like you, Fuji

I think your mistake is thinking that yahoo answers is for education or to somehow help the world

whereas it's much more useful for entertainment



Fujikoma

I figured it was a microcosm in which to test my odd theories (or, more likely, some shit other people have thought of before) of social engineering. Oh well, my mistake.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Fujikoma on June 30, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
I figured it was a microcosm in which to test my odd theories (or, more likely, some shit other people have thought of before) of social engineering. Oh well, my mistake.

The problem with that though is that people will troll it regardless. Because they can. It would be like trying to reform people in 4-chan not to use the word fag. It's just not going to happen.

You might want to consider a different venue to test your ideas. Preferrably one not so large and anonymous.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

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Fujikoma

I've tested it in many places, and it seems to work, for the most part, barring my occasional emotional outbursts.

Need something bigger. I'm not necessarily going to succeed entirely, or even to any measurable extent, but I need more info. The very fact that the place itself encourages trolling will provide valuable feedback over time.

Eventually, though, I'll get bored with it and move on to something else.

BadBeast

Yahoo Answers is a really good covert MMORPG,  diguised as a really bad information resource.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: BadBeast on June 30, 2010, 11:10:55 PM
Yahoo Answers is a really good covert MMORPG,  diguised as a really bad information resource.

That's basically what I get out of it.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Fujikoma

*casts "magic missile"*

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

BadBeast

Quote from: Fujikoma on June 30, 2010, 08:17:54 PM
I can kind of see why it's a toilet... I feel a mindless rant trying to claw its way out, I'll try to keep it short.

Ok, the whole reason it's filled with trolls in the first place, likely, is because the questions are usually asked by, well, people who are ignorant as to how search engines work. If they wanted a good answer to their question, they'd spend a lot less time just typing it in to google or other comparable engine and seeing what pops up, using their noodle to filter everything but what appears relevant to their query, and doing a little bit of research. Instead, they go to a place like Yahoo answers and open themselves up to trolling and misinformation, asking stupid questions which they could answer for themselves if they simply didn't fail the internet. What am I? Your stupid search monkey? When you say "dance" I dance? But, no matter.

Example of a stupid question I have seen?
Q: Why does pot stay in your system for so long compared to other drugs?
A: Because it's fat soluble, douchepickle. Other drugs are water soluble.

When I don't answer right off the top of my head with something out of left field, it usually takes me seconds to find the crucial information they are seeking, at which point I shake my head with shame at what humanity has become. Perhaps after I complete (or fail, with terrible consequences) my experiment with getting them all to play nice, I'll move on to teaching them to use the tools at their disposal, rendering yahoo answers obsolete for all but the more meaningful questions, like "When I flush the toilet, does my poop go to hell?".

But it's starting to get to me... I fear I may be converted by the very thing I sought to convert. The temptation to cut loose on some of these people is almost too great, but I must remind myself that to do so would be to turn on my belief that there is yet hope for humanity, and that even those less gifted in the noodle department can still use the tools at their disposal to educate themselves a little better and be able to hold up a decent conversation, nurture vs. nature, that sort of thing... The circumstances to which one is exposed, I believe, affect quality of thinking, and it is quality, not necessarily quantity, which is more important in achieving a correct understanding... In which case, I'm the wrong person for the job, but, one has to have their goals in life... This is horrendously oversimplified, and I could go on about it for days, but I figure shorter is better.

Just my thoughts on Yahoo answers, and why it's dumb as all hell.
Oh dear. An idealist.  In Y/A. Could get messy.  :eek:  Magic Missiles won't help a bit .  And he said something about going to the Cat section too.  I'm not going in there after him.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Fujikoma

#238
I'm working my way up there, I've been sidetracked by the mental health section... It will likely take a while. Not a lot of trolls I've seen so far in the health sections, with good reason, I'd imagine... But, I see some of these questions and I'm like "This is a job for SUPER DUMBASS!" and proceed to charge in there with my hackneyed idealism, attempting to summon elves and fairies along the way.

EDIT: "He's going to hurt himself, and when he does, I won't help him."

Nephew Twiddleton

This is going to end badly, Fuji.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS