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Started by malvarma, July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM

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Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
There was a conversation in the IRC channel about copyright earlier. I was curious what you all think. Do you think current US Copyright Law needs reform? Should it be strengthened or weakened? For those outside of the country: What are the laws where you live? How do you feel about it?

I for one think copyright law in the United States needs to change. Most new works don't enter the public domain until 70 years after the author's death. As I understand, the goal of copyright is to encourage artists and thinkers to make new works by giving them a state granted monopoly over the distribution of their works. What will extending the term past their death accomplish? Do the dead need incentives to write books?

Not to mention, the ambiguity surrounding public domain has created many orphaned works.

What's more, the current law punishes offenders unfairly. In one case, a man was sued for $675,000 for illegally downloading 31 songs. If he had physically shoplifted the same amount of music from a record store, he would have owed the store 50 dollars at the most. Downloading 31 songs does not inflict $675,000 dollars worth of damages on the recording industry. Why does the current law award record companies thousands of dollars per stolen song?

Please share your thoughts.


Artists should be treated like slave labor.  THey are here to dance when we say dance and sing when we say sing.  They are entitled to jack shit.  Their thougths should belong to me!
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Salty

To the OP:
My thoughts upon having a spare hours or two, a rarity for me these days, to sit down with a cup of coffee and catch up one of my favorite threads on here only to find that some FUCKSTICK has decided to take a shit in my cornflakes are as follows: the FUCKSTICK responsible should eat shit and die in a fire.

So far, my thoughts on the matter have not changed.

Alty,
Not sleeping well these days.
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Double copyright across the sky... oh my god! So intense!
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Telarus on July 10, 2010, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 09, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
I COPYRIGHT THIS THREAD!!!!

:argh!:



make it into a play read by gay indians


:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: SET IN TUCSON

Sorry.  I have copyrighted Tucson.
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Freeky

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 10, 2010, 03:31:20 AM
Quote from: Telarus on July 10, 2010, 12:03:10 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 09, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
I COPYRIGHT THIS THREAD!!!!

:argh!:



make it into a play read by gay indians


:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: SET IN TUCSON

Sorry.  I have copyrighted Tucson.

I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT, SO I'MMA COPYRIGHT INFRINGE ON YUOR LIFE, BUD!

NotPublished

Everytime I hear the word copywrite I imagine a pack piranha's
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Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
There was a conversation in the IRC channel about copyright earlier. I was curious what you all think.

1.  I think we've had this discussion 5 times since January.

2.  I think you're a complete fucking shitneck.  Thanks to you, Charley pulled down his story-in-progress.  I was enjoying reading that, and you fucked it up.  Way to break it, hero.  Now, fuck off.

He decided to remove the story. Not me. I can't be held responsible for what he does with his own story.
If he removed his whole story just because one person advocated copyright reform, he should have removed the story along time ago. There are thousands of us on the internet and anyone can read what is posted here.

You're a thief.  When a thief is around, you lock up your stuff.

This is the correct answer. Until this arrogant, stupid little fuck came along there was no concern whatsoever about anyone stealing my book.

Adios

Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:52:57 PM
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Hush, thief.

No.

Yes.

And I wonder why you specifically mentioned megauploads?  I suppose I'll go check.  If it's there, you won't be here.
I mentioned megaupload because everyone knows megaupload. It was a good example.
I think you are implying I copied Charley's book and put it on megaupload.

I did not. I have never even read it.

If you do find his book on megaupload (which would surprise me, as it sounds like too obscure a book to be pirated), it could have been anyone who put it online. Anyone can upload files to that site for free without registering.

Edit: Also, why would anyone pirate a book they could already read on this forum for free?


Self-pwnage

malvarma

Quote from: Charley Brown on July 11, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
There was a conversation in the IRC channel about copyright earlier. I was curious what you all think.

1.  I think we've had this discussion 5 times since January.

2.  I think you're a complete fucking shitneck.  Thanks to you, Charley pulled down his story-in-progress.  I was enjoying reading that, and you fucked it up.  Way to break it, hero.  Now, fuck off.

He decided to remove the story. Not me. I can't be held responsible for what he does with his own story.
If he removed his whole story just because one person advocated copyright reform, he should have removed the story along time ago. There are thousands of us on the internet and anyone can read what is posted here.

You're a thief.  When a thief is around, you lock up your stuff.

This is the correct answer. Until this arrogant, stupid little fuck came along there was no concern whatsoever about anyone stealing my book.

There were pirates here before I came here. I know because I've talked to them.
Hell, even if there were no pirate members, any pirate could have lurked here and copied your book.

Are you new to the internet? Don't you know anything you post publicly can be copied and read by anyone?
Follow me at http://twitter.com/normalioifyp and I'll follow you back. Let's totally be BFFs.

Adios

Quote from: malvarma on July 11, 2010, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on July 11, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
There was a conversation in the IRC channel about copyright earlier. I was curious what you all think.

1.  I think we've had this discussion 5 times since January.

2.  I think you're a complete fucking shitneck.  Thanks to you, Charley pulled down his story-in-progress.  I was enjoying reading that, and you fucked it up.  Way to break it, hero.  Now, fuck off.

He decided to remove the story. Not me. I can't be held responsible for what he does with his own story.
If he removed his whole story just because one person advocated copyright reform, he should have removed the story along time ago. There are thousands of us on the internet and anyone can read what is posted here.

You're a thief.  When a thief is around, you lock up your stuff.

This is the correct answer. Until this arrogant, stupid little fuck came along there was no concern whatsoever about anyone stealing my book.

There were pirates here before I came here. I know because I've talked to them.
Hell, even if there were no pirate members, any pirate could have lurked here and copied your book.

Are you new to the internet? Don't you know anything you post publicly can be copied and read by anyone?

Why are you still here you miserable little thief? You have no concept of trust or honor.

Suu

Quote from: malvarma on July 11, 2010, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on July 11, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: malvarma on July 09, 2010, 10:15:14 PM
There was a conversation in the IRC channel about copyright earlier. I was curious what you all think.

1.  I think we've had this discussion 5 times since January.

2.  I think you're a complete fucking shitneck.  Thanks to you, Charley pulled down his story-in-progress.  I was enjoying reading that, and you fucked it up.  Way to break it, hero.  Now, fuck off.

He decided to remove the story. Not me. I can't be held responsible for what he does with his own story.
If he removed his whole story just because one person advocated copyright reform, he should have removed the story along time ago. There are thousands of us on the internet and anyone can read what is posted here.

You're a thief.  When a thief is around, you lock up your stuff.

This is the correct answer. Until this arrogant, stupid little fuck came along there was no concern whatsoever about anyone stealing my book.

There were pirates here before I came here. I know because I've talked to them.
Hell, even if there were no pirate members, any pirate could have lurked here and copied your book.

Are you new to the internet? Don't you know anything you post publicly can be copied and read by anyone?

Greaaaat.



It's not a matter of what we know, is a matter of trust. I post my rough drafts here so that I can get unbiased opinions from people that show a genuine interest. Note: I said rough. Anyone who would want to seriously consider stealing anything I write from this or any other website has to at least have the common sense to know that I, and every other author, probably has a word document, with a timestamp, saved on their own home computer. Shit, I keep handwritten works still, because that's how I am.

For me, it's not a matter that you stole it, it's the fact that you were stupid enough to do so. You may bitch and get all anti-copyright all you want, but still, by law, everyone here on the internet is protected by Poor-Man's Copyright, which you have violated, whether you want to admit to it or not.

I have artwork and more writing posting on my website, I know I'm protected, and I've had to invoke my rights before when I've had my art stolen. It works, and I got a girl thrown in jail for 9 days because of it.

My intellectual property is MINE. Charley's intellectual property is HIS, and I won't let some know-it-all ingrate tell me otherwise.

Go preach your anti-copyright and pseudo-anarchism somewhere else.

-Suu
Is a fucking industry professional. D/N/T.
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malvarma

Quote from: Suu on July 11, 2010, 05:16:35 PM

For me, it's not a matter that you stole it, it's the fact that you were stupid enough to do so. You may bitch and get all anti-copyright all you want, but still, by law, everyone here on the internet is protected by Poor-Man's Copyright, which you have violated, whether you want to admit to it or not.

But I didn't steal anything.

Charley did not take his story down because I pirated his work. Nobody has pirated his work. . To my knowledge, it hasn't appeared on any file sharing websites.

Charley took his story down because we were discussing copyright law in the IRC channel and I mentioned I was pro copyright reform and belonged to a private bit-torrent tracker and that made him uncomfortable. He never accused me of pirating his work.

Please don't make false accusations against me. Perhaps you have just misunderstood what's being said in this thread.







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Suu

Quote from: malvarma on July 11, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Quote from: Suu on July 11, 2010, 05:16:35 PM

For me, it's not a matter that you stole it, it's the fact that you were stupid enough to do so. You may bitch and get all anti-copyright all you want, but still, by law, everyone here on the internet is protected by Poor-Man's Copyright, which you have violated, whether you want to admit to it or not.

But I didn't steal anything.

Charley did not take his story down because I pirated his work. Nobody has pirated his work. . To my knowledge, it hasn't appeared on any file sharing websites.

Charley took his story down because we were discussing copyright law in the IRC channel and I mentioned I was pro copyright reform and belonged to a private bit-torrent tracker and that made him uncomfortable. He never accused me of pirating his work.

Please don't make false accusations against me. Perhaps you have just misunderstood what's being said in this thread.









There is no saving yourself now, so don't even try.
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."